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Iroquoian Languages

Posted: 2009-12-22, 19:04
by księżycowy
Here's a place to discuss Mohawk, Oneida, Cayuga, Seneca, or any other Iroquoian Languages!

Re: Cayuga

Posted: 2009-12-28, 8:31
by Formiko
Where in NY do you live? I live in NY too. While I don't know Cayuga, I studied Mohawk for 2 semesters. The two are similar enough.

Re: Cayuga

Posted: 2009-12-28, 11:45
by '''
OT but if you have any Mohawk resources online I'd be interested.

Re: Cayuga

Posted: 2009-12-28, 12:03
by księżycowy
Formiko wrote:Where in NY do you live? I live in NY too. While I don't know Cayuga, I studied Mohawk for 2 semesters. The two are similar enough.


Nearby Rochester (Wayne County). Actually I found a few Mohawk textbooks for sale (w/audio!) so I plan on learning Mohawk too (probably mostly learn Mohawk as it has audio and the Cayuga book only has a little audio)

''' wrote:OT but if you have any Mohawk resources online I'd be interested.

I really haven't been able to find as good resources for Mohawk online (for free anyway). As I said above I have found two Mohawk textbooks for sale online, and I'd be happy to post the link if you want.

[EDIT: Remembered a free Mohawk textbook, and put the link to the textbooks for sale]

Re: Cayuga/Mohawk

Posted: 2009-12-28, 13:55
by Mancko
Hi,
I have a link in my bookmarks that could interest you: Kanien'kéha. I don't know if it's a dialect of Mohawk though.
This site gathers data from First Nations across Canada.

Re: Cayuga/Mohawk

Posted: 2009-12-28, 15:16
by księżycowy
Mancko wrote:Hi,
I have a link in my bookmarks that could interest you: Kanien'kéha. I don't know if it's a dialect of Mohawk though.
This site gathers data from First Nations across Canada.


Good link. It actually has quite a few different native languages of Canada. :D

Re: Cayuga/Mohawk

Posted: 2010-10-14, 10:55
by księżycowy
For anyone interested that tends to frequent the forums and might not view the blogs, I've started posting grammar notes for Mohawk (as well as the other languages I'm learning 8-) ) on my blog.

Anyone else learning Mohawk? (I'll ask out of curiosity.)

Re: Cayuga/Mohawk

Posted: 2010-10-14, 20:04
by Formiko
księżycowy wrote:
Anyone else learning Mohawk? (I'll ask out of curiosity.)


My Mohawk is at a B1 level, but haven't spoke it in many niwenhitèns.

Re: Cayuga/Mohawk

Posted: 2010-10-14, 20:18
by księżycowy
I do remember you saying something like that before. That's cool, at least I know who to stump with questions! :)

Re: Cayuga/Mohawk

Posted: 2010-10-18, 8:43
by ILuvEire
God I want to learn Mohawk so bad. Such a beautiful language :)

Re: Iroquoian languages

Posted: 2010-10-18, 10:51
by księżycowy
That's great to hear, IluvEire! Hope my links help you!

Speaking of which (and also explaining the thread name change) I've found some interesting links for Oneida. Links are at the top.

Re: Iroquoian languages

Posted: 2010-10-21, 0:15
by księżycowy
Ok, here is something the frustrates me! Anyone know of any good dictionaries for Mohawk that are still in print, relatively cost effective and easy to find? (A tall order, I know!)

Is A Thousand Words Of Mohawk by Maracle any good?

I've seen the current Cayuga dictionary, and yes it's easy to find, but at the $100+ sticker, it's a little steep :shock: . Maybe someday though . . . :wink:

Re: Iroquoian languages

Posted: 2010-10-21, 3:07
by Formiko
księżycowy wrote:
A Thousand Words Of Mohawk[/i] by Maracle any good?


Yes, it's good

Re: Iroquoian languages

Posted: 2010-10-21, 10:34
by księżycowy
Formiko wrote:Yes, it's good

My follow up question is: does it have the same orthography (-ies) as Let's Speak Mohawk?
I don't really like the one type they use in the grammar book. But it is nice that they use the more 'phonetic' type in the brackets after. Same for the 'dictionary?'

Re: Iroquoian languages

Posted: 2010-10-21, 11:26
by księżycowy
Added a Mohawk storybook/reader to the links at the top.
[Trying to keep the links in one location, so no-one has to hunt for any.]

Re: Iroquoian languages

Posted: 2010-10-21, 20:11
by Formiko
księżycowy wrote:
Formiko wrote:Yes, it's good

My follow up question is: does it have the same orthography (-ies) as Let's Speak Mohawk?
I don't really like the one type they use in the grammar book. But it is nice that they use the more 'phonetic' type in the brackets after. Same for the 'dictionary?'

Yes, it's by the same authors

Re: Iroquoian languages

Posted: 2010-10-21, 20:45
by księżycowy
Formiko wrote:Yes, it's by the same authors

Same format too?

Re: Iroquoian languages

Posted: 2010-10-21, 23:03
by ILuvEire
Guy-with-a-cool-Polish-name, you're the greatest :]

Re: Iroquoian languages

Posted: 2010-10-21, 23:16
by księżycowy
ILuvEire wrote:Guy-with-a-cool-Polish-name, you're the greatest :]

Thanks! :wink:

Re: Iroquoian languages

Posted: 2010-10-25, 21:06
by księżycowy
Am I correct in assuming that the 2nd person prefix ’se-’ is the correct one to use for a stem beginning with ’ts.’ I know that the ’se-’ form is used for a stem beginning with ’t’ so I want to say that my assumption is correct. Formiko, anyone else, able to help?