Iroquoian Languages

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Re: Iroquoian Languages

Postby Bingles » 2014-12-25, 20:54

[flag=]cay[/flag]
Gayogo̱hnǫ’ gadewayę’s
I am studying the Cayuga language
Bennett Joe gya:sǫh. Kanadagwa:dih hǫ:weh knagre’ ne’ wa’ne:.
My name is Bennett Joe. I live on the Canadian side right now

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Postby vijayjohn » 2014-12-25, 20:56

Thanks. :)

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Re: Iroquoian Languages

Postby Bingles » 2015-03-16, 4:54

I found a good resource for an almost extinct Iroquoian language... I might learn it along with Cayuga.

http://www.mingolanguage.org/

It seems very very close to Cayuga. Different orthography and I hate it but it can always be fixed :lol: . Nasal Hooks and Colons can fix it.
[flag=]cay[/flag]
Gayogo̱hnǫ’ gadewayę’s
I am studying the Cayuga language
Bennett Joe gya:sǫh. Kanadagwa:dih hǫ:weh knagre’ ne’ wa’ne:.
My name is Bennett Joe. I live on the Canadian side right now

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Postby księżycowy » 2015-03-16, 12:26

I've actually thought of learning Mingo before. Though that website hasn't been updated in forever it still has some great stuff on it. :wink:

In other news, I just bought the Cayuga Teaching Grammar off Amazon. I'm a little disappointed there is no audio available for it (maybe just for students?). Oh well, still getting it.

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Postby księżycowy » 2015-03-21, 13:14

I'm happy to report that I just got the Cayuga Teaching Grammar and I think it will make a wonderful supplement to Wadewayénstanih.

In other news, I've just emailed both the Oneida and Seneca tribes to inquire about resources, so we'll see how that goes. Fingers crossed! :D

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Postby księżycowy » 2015-04-30, 16:47

Time for a long over due update on my emails!

I've heard back from the Seneca tribe, and unfortunately the person I spoke with said that they do not really have any textbooks or the like (can't say I'm surprised), so no luck there unfortunately. :(

I haven't heard back from the Oneida tribe, so I'll try again.

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Postby Massimiliano B » 2016-03-27, 10:50

Here are two Oneida elders playing pool and talking in Oneida:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UZDOEc7plU


Other videos with elders speaking Oneida:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWfXAUP9APQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0SRvdFv-eo
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Postby księżycowy » 2016-11-08, 22:08

I just so happen to be searching around online the other day, and I found this cool (presumably new) website from the Seneca Tribe on their language:
http://senecalanguage.com/
It looks really promising! They even have a reference grammar and English to Seneca dictionary uploaded.
They also have a language word/phrasebook. I'm hoping an actual textbook is eventually uploaded/created.

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Re: Iroquoian Languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-03-26, 4:35

Bingles wrote:I found a good resource for an almost extinct Iroquoian language... I might learn it along with Cayuga.

http://www.mingolanguage.org/

It seems very very close to Cayuga. Different orthography and I hate it but it can always be fixed :lol: . Nasal Hooks and Colons can fix it.

Oh wow, I'd never heard of this language before! I wouldn't have heard of its existence if you hadn't mentioned it.

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Postby księżycowy » 2017-03-26, 17:04

Yeah, it's a secret among the Iroquoian languages. Not many people know about it. I've known about it precisely because of both that site, and my interest in Iroquoian languages. :P

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Re: Iroquoian Languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-03-27, 5:16

I didn't know until now that languages could keep their relatives a closely-guarded secret until now, either. :lol:

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Postby księżycowy » 2017-11-10, 13:06

Looks like the Cherokee lessons that the guy from cherokeelessons.com created are still freely available online, and he/they even have redone the lessons. At least as far as I remember from when he was just starting to devise them.

http://www.cherokeelessons.com/#!About (main page, I'm sure it's been posted before)
https://jalagigawoni.gnomio.com/ (the online course, which you can access as a guest ATM)

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Postby księżycowy » 2017-11-11, 14:43

A digital/online dictionary of Cayuga:
http://cayugadictionary.ca/

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Postby księżycowy » 2017-11-12, 13:03

Does anyone have the Cayuga Spelling Manual in pdf format or the sound files in zip format?
The pdf with embedded sound would be amazing.

I did ask COOL, but due to the attack on their site, there is no guarantee they still have any of it.

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Postby księżycowy » 2017-11-14, 14:14

I also emailed the Woodland Cutural Center, we'll see what they say, as they are attached to the COOL project.

In other news, I'm Keen to see if there are any Onondaga language resources, like a textbook, classes through video conferencing, grammar, etc. I emailed the Onondaga Language project at onondaga.com
We'll see what they say.
I have a feeling it is a similar situation as Seneca though (just starting out, very little available beyond classes, etc).


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