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vijayjohn wrote:I don't speak Ainu, I'm afraid, but welcome back!
dEhiN wrote:What are you using for Ainu?
vijayjohn wrote:If you went to Japan, would you try to find people who spoke Ainu? How would you go about doing that? It's moribund, isn't it?
Trapy wrote:Would love to go to the museums and “see” artifacts and speak to any geeks like us, but I fully expect today, it’s like the Lakota or Cherokee- very few individuals who can speak the language at all to any level, and a lot “for show” I.e. cuisine, rituals, dance, dress. There are no heavy population centers, and only 60,000 identified as being descended from Ainu due to discrimination.
*note i haven’t much Native American research, this is just based on what I have heard from people who have visited reservations.
Trapy wrote:Note 2: hard to remember SOV - hok ku=ku instead of i drink beer. So things like “I want to speak more Ainu”- where do I place poronno? Much Ainu- as in quantity of language, I am guessing would be poronno Ainu-itak, and to speak it a lot, as in the action of speaking, poronno ku=itak.
Trapy wrote:Apparently Ainu is based on base-20 Numbers
http://www.sf.airnet.ne.jp/ts/language/number/ainu.html
So, 1-10, 1+10, 2+10, 3+10, up to 20, 1+20, 2+ 20, to 30, which is 10+20, 11+20, 12+20... to 40 which is 2 sets 20, then 1+2*20, 2+2*20.. repeat every block of 20.
księżycowy wrote:Trapy wrote:Would love to go to the museums and “see” artifacts and speak to any geeks like us, but I fully expect today, it’s like the Lakota or Cherokee- very few individuals who can speak the language at all to any level, and a lot “for show” I.e. cuisine, rituals, dance, dress. There are no heavy population centers, and only 60,000 identified as being descended from Ainu due to discrimination.
*note i haven’t much Native American research, this is just based on what I have heard from people who have visited reservations.
I'm glad you qualified that, as Cherokee and Lakota are not that moribund. Both have native speakers that number in the thousands. That's not to say they're not dying, but revival attempts are currently underway.
Anyway, back to Ainu,
Trapy wrote:Did come across this for more vocab will read tonight. Some of the romaji is different (sita vs seta for dog) but more resources the better for now.
dEhiN wrote:Trapy wrote:Did come across this for more vocab will read tonight. Some of the romaji is different (sita vs seta for dog) but more resources the better for now.
Perhaps that's just a romaji thing?
Trapy wrote:
Yup, I knew they had thousands, and I called out those two as they are the biggest. I once went looking for resources on Natchez as I have some connection to it (geographically, not biologically), and was sad when almost nothing came up
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