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TAC January-June 2018 - Salajane

Postby Salajane » 2017-12-13, 10:46

THE LANGUAGES I AM GOING TO LEARN:

(et) EESTI KEEL
Current level: B2
Goal: C1
My plans:
* learn 4000 new words
* read 5 books
* watch films and TV

(es) ESPAÑOL
Current level: B1~B2
Goal: C1
My plan:
* learn 4000 new words
* read 5 books
* watch films and TV

(pt-BR) PORTUGUÊS
Current level: A1
Goal: A2
My plan:
* learn 2000 new words
* read 1 book

(tl) TAGALOG
Current level: A1
Goal: A2
My plan:
* learn 2000 new words
* read 10 short stories

(id) BAHASA INDONESIA
Current level: A0
Goal: A2
My plan:
* learn 2000 new words
* read 10 short stories

Other plans: to learn about literature and history, translate poems.

Other languages:

1. Greenlandic, Finnish, Anindilyakwa
2. Tok Pisin, French, Guarani
3. Kuman
4. Karaim, USL, Crimean Tatar, Romani
5. Bulgarian, Macedonian, Albanian

Karaim, Bulgarian, Kuman

Goals till the end of the spring:

(et) Read 70 pages of a book.
(es) Read 70 pages of a book + finish grammar exercises in my textbook.
(tl) Finish the grammar lessons on SEAsite
(id) Finish the A1 textbook + the Duolingo course (English from Indonesian)
(en) Read A course in phonetics and read at least 50 pages of An introduction to functional grammar.

TASKS FINNISHED:

* Portuguese and Indonesian Duolingo courses
* Comprehensive Filipino Memrise course (1000+ words)
* Tagalog grammar lessons on seasite
* 3 first chapters of A1 Indonesian textbook
* 10 chapters of An introduction to phonological analysis
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Re: TAC 2018 - Irusia

Postby Luís » 2017-12-13, 11:57

How do you plan to keep track of all the vocabulary? Anki? Any other SRS?
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Postby Salajane » 2017-12-13, 12:21

Luís wrote:How do you plan to keep track of all the vocabulary? Anki? Any other SRS?

Memrise.
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Re: TAC 2018 - Irusia

Postby IpseDixit » 2017-12-13, 12:28

27 words a day on average... good luck with that :lol:

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Postby vijayjohn » 2017-12-14, 6:33

What books are you planning to read for each language?

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Re: TAC 2018 - Irusia

Postby Salajane » 2017-12-14, 7:10

vijayjohn wrote:What books are you planning to read for each language?

I haven't decided yet.
At the moment I am looking for some interesting books. I would like to read something historical and also something about travels.
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Re: TAC 2018 - Irusia

Postby Luís » 2017-12-14, 13:39

For Spanish I recommend Gabriel García Márquez. He has some short novels (100-150 pages) that are interesting and not too hard to understand. For instance, El coronel no tiene quien le escriba or Crónica de una muerte anunciada.

For Portuguese, just stay away from Paulo Coelho :blah:
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Postby Car » 2017-12-14, 16:12

For Spanish, "El mundo amarillo: Si crees en los sueños, ellos se crearán" by Albert Espinosa isn't the worst read. While I didn't like it all that much (I gave it 3/5), it's short and rather simple to read. Even if the topic usually doesn't appeal to you, it's worth checking out.
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Postby linguoboy » 2017-12-14, 16:23

Luís wrote:For Spanish I recommend Gabriel García Márquez. He has some short novels (100-150 pages) that are interesting and not too hard to understand. For instance, El coronel no tiene quien le escriba or Crónica de una muerte anunciada.

Interesting choice. We used to joke about García Márquez' "crazy jungle Spanish", but I think some of his earlier work uses more standard vocabulary.

I read a lot of Borges starting out because his stories are short and interesting. The language isn't particularly difficult. The fantastical content can be challenging, but generally he presents it in a fairly straightforward way (as opposed to, say, Rulfo, who can be frustratingly elliptical). The same can be said of García Márquez.
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Postby vijayjohn » 2017-12-14, 17:18

I think I found Márquez generally more realistic than Borges IIRC, and Crónica de una muerte anunciada is probably the most boring thing I have ever read by Márquez, although that may have been in part because I had to read it in English one chapter at a time (for our English literature class where at least half of what we read must have been translated from other languages :roll:) and it's fairly repetitive since it's basically the same story told from multiple perspectives. :P

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Re: TAC 2018 - Irusia

Postby Osias » 2017-12-15, 14:36

For Portuguese I suggest Rubem Fonseca
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Postby linguoboy » 2017-12-15, 16:43

Osias wrote:For Portuguese I suggest Rubem Fonseca

Dang, a Brazilian vendor has Secreções, excreções e desatinos new for $7.95 with free shipping to the USA. That was an easy decision.
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Re: TAC 2018 - Irusia

Postby Salajane » 2017-12-15, 20:10

IpseDixit wrote:27 words a day on average...

I've added Estonian and Croatian, so now it will be more. :) We'll see how it goes.
IpseDixit wrote:good luck with that :lol:

Thank you!
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Postby Salajane » 2017-12-15, 20:39

Luís wrote:For Spanish I recommend Gabriel García Márquez. He has some short novels (100-150 pages) that are interesting and not too hard to understand. For instance, El coronel no tiene quien le escriba or Crónica de una muerte anunciada.

Thank you for the recommendations!
I've already read El coronel no tiene quien le escriba in Ukrainian translation though and I don't want to read it again. I'd prefer something new. I will try Crónica de una muerte anunciada.

Luís wrote:For Portuguese, just stay away from Paulo Coelho :blah:

That's exactly what I'm going to do. I was even going to ask people to recommend me anything except Paulo Coelho. I read "Alchemist" once, but didn't finish. When I was reading it, I felt in some places that something is strange or wrong in the book (though I must admit that I generally liked it), but didn't understand what exactly. After some time, I got his another book, "The pilgrimage" (too nice name for such a book), but after the first two pages, I understood that it's certainly not the kind of book I was expecting to read, and after reading a few random pages from the middle of the book, I was sure that the book is contrary to my views and believes as a Christian. After searching the internet, I found the information about the author and his works which confirmed this: for example, this article.
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Postby Salajane » 2017-12-15, 20:47

Thanks, Car, linguoboy, vijayjohn, Osias for all the suggestions and comments!
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Postby Salajane » 2017-12-15, 20:58

I was thinking about my plan for the year. I think it will be difficult to learn all the languages at once, so I decided to divide them between different months:

January - Spanish, Croatian, Tagalog, Tok Pisin, Inuktitut, Greenlandic
February - Spanish, Croatian, Tagalog, Tok Pisin, Inuktitut, Greenlandic

March - Tagalog, Portuguese
April - Tagalog
May - Spanish
June - nothing

July - Estonian, conlanging
August - Estonian, conlanging

September - Indonesian, Portuguese
October - Indonesian
November - Spanish
December - nothing

This is only the first version of the plan and if I see that it doesn't work and that I need more time for a particular language, I'll change it.
I've never seen anybody who included conlanging in TAC, but why not? Maybe it will motivate me to continue developing several conlangs I've started creating.

(If you see mistakes in any of my posts, please send me corrections in a PM. Thank you!)
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Re: TAC 2018 - Irusia

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-12-16, 6:05

Irusia wrote:
Luís wrote:For Spanish I recommend Gabriel García Márquez. He has some short novels (100-150 pages) that are interesting and not too hard to understand. For instance, El coronel no tiene quien le escriba or Crónica de una muerte anunciada.

Thank you for the recommendations!
I've already read El coronel no tiene quien le escriba in Ukrainian translation though and I don't want to read it again. I'd prefer something new. I will try Crónica de una muerte anunciada.

I'd like to recommend Un señor muy viejo con unas alas enormes. (It's much shorter, though).
Luís wrote:For Portuguese, just stay away from Paulo Coelho :blah:

That's exactly what I'm going to do. I was even going to ask people to recommend me anything except Paulo Coelho. I read "Alchemist" once, but didn't finish.

I have it in Malayalam here at home. :P That and The Man Who Counted (O homem que calculava) are the only books I have that were originally written in (Brazilian) Portuguese.
Thanks, Car, linguoboy, vijayjohn, Osias for all the suggestions and comments!

Np! :)

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Re: TAC 2018 - Irusia

Postby Salajane » 2017-12-18, 10:49

Plans for January:

(es) Espanol
* finish all the exercises in my textbooks
* learn 1000 words

(kdr) Karaj tili
* finish reading a grammar book
* make grammar notes in my Karaim thread
* read something
* create a course on memrise with all the vocabulary I am going to learn

(tl) Tagalog
* finish learning everything on seasite
* learn 500 words
* translate some songs

(tpi) Tok Pisin
* finish An introductory programmed course in Tok Pisin
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Re: TAC 2018 - Irusia

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-12-22, 7:10

What textbooks and grammar are you using for Spanish and Crimean Tatar, Irusia? :)
Irusia wrote:(tl) Tagalog
* finish learning everything on seasite

Omg! I completely forgot how useful SEAsite is for learning Tagalog. :o Now I know what to do when I want to improve my Tagalog! Thanks! :D

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Postby Salajane » 2017-12-23, 19:11

vijayjohn wrote:What textbooks and grammar are you using for Spanish and Crimean Tatar, Irusia? :)

I don't remember the names now, I'll check later and tell you.
vijayjohn wrote:
Irusia wrote:(tl) Tagalog
* finish learning everything on seasite

Omg! I completely forgot how useful SEAsite is for learning Tagalog. :o Now I know what to do when I want to improve my Tagalog! Thanks! :D

You're welcome! :D
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