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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby IpseDixit » 2018-04-18, 19:14

No problem :P

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Postby dEhiN » 2018-04-18, 23:51

Luís wrote:Thanks for spotting that. It's actually not the first time that it happensed... because "Native language" is the default proficiency level when editing/adding languages to your profile.

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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-04-19, 5:25

I would say "that it's happened." I wonder whether there are native speakers who say "that it happens," too/instead.

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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby Luís » 2018-04-19, 8:23

Probably the "that" shouldn't be there, but "not the first time it happens" has over two million hits on Google :hmm:
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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby IpseDixit » 2018-04-19, 9:04

I still remember how surprised I was to find out in a grammar book that "the xth time + present simple" is wrong and that you actually have to use the present continuous. (And no, I don't take grammar books as gospel truth and maybe there is some marginal use of the present simple in some cases or in some dalects, but that was the general rule).

Probably the "that" shouldn't be there, but "not the first time it happens" has over two million hits on Google


The results of the first page are kind of weird though, in the sense that pretty much all of them are from forums and twitter and could really be written by non-native speakers.

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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby dEhiN » 2018-04-19, 18:33

IpseDixit wrote:I still remember how surprised I was to find out in a grammar book that "the xth time + present simple" is wrong and that you actually have to use the present continuous. (And no, I don't take grammar books as gospel truth and maybe there is some marginal use of the present simple in some cases or in some dalects, but that was the general rule).

The way I view it is that you're referring to a specific instance in the present, so hence the present continuous. If I were to talk about something happening X number of times over a certain period, then I would use the simple present. This is why, for me, what Luís wrote sounds off: he was talking about a specific instance in the past, which warranted either the simple past or the present perfect (i.e., "it's happened" which I would read as "it has happened").

IpseDixit wrote:The results of the first page are kind of weird though, in the sense that pretty much all of them are from forums and twitter and could really be written by non-native speakers.

I was thinking the same; they may not have been written by non-native speakers, but I do think that (at least in English, not sure about other languages), Internet chat speak, including stuff found on memes, 9GAG, Twitter, Tumblr, etc., is its own variety of English where simplification and reduction to just above the point of unintelligibility is favoured.
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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby Luís » 2018-04-23, 9:49

I bought the last volume of Grammaire progressive du français (perfectionnement) and added it to my to do list!

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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby Luís » 2018-04-28, 13:07

I still have some time for Spanish this year, so I've added the book ¿Hablas español o portuñol? to my list. It's mostly about false friends between Spanish and Portuguese and it also has a list of the most common mistakes Portuguese speakers make when speaking Spanish.

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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby Luís » 2018-05-01, 16:32

Update

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Grammaire progressive du français - niveau avancé (page 145/169)

+ 5 episodes of Pékin Express (I finished season 8 :bounce: )
+ 1 episode of Fais pas ci, fais pas ça (I started watching season 4)

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I finished Civilización española :bounce: I'll now start going through ¿Hablas español o portuñol?

(he)
Assimil Hebrew (Lesson 73/85)

+ 7 episodes of המדרשה (with subtitles)
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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby Luís » 2018-06-10, 14:56

I haven't really advanced as much as I would like to do this month (I was on vacation for a couple of weeks as well, so that didn't help)

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I finished Grammaire progressive du français - niveau avancé :bounce:
I will now start going through Le portugais économique et commercial (but using it the other way around)
+ 7 episodes of Fais pas ci, fais pas ça (I finished watching season 4 :bounce:)
I will now start watching season 9 of Pékin Express

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I finished ¿Hablas español o portuñol? :bounce:
I'm not sure yet what I'll do next...

(he)
Assimil Hebrew (Lesson 77/85)

+ 3 episodes of המדרשה (I finished watching season 1 :bounce:). There's a second season, but it's still not available with English subtitles
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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby Luís » 2018-06-18, 20:44

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I've started reading Historia de America Latina, by German Vázquez and Nelson Martínez Díaz

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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-06-19, 2:33

I'm interested, too, of course. :whistle:

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Postby dEhiN » 2018-06-19, 14:34

vijayjohn wrote:I'm interested, too, of course. :whistle:

Laquelle langue est-ce que tu n'intéresses pas? (Ça du sens? Je veux dire "what language are you not interested in?")
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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby księżycowy » 2018-06-19, 16:05

None. :whistle:

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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby Ser » 2018-06-19, 21:20

Hmmm... A literal translation would be:

    A quelle langue tu n'es pas intéressé ?

and maybe it works, but somehow I feel like intransitive intéresser (with an indirect human object) is better in this case:

    Quelle langue ne t'intéresse pas ?
    Est-ce qu'il y a une langue qui ne t'intéresse pas ?
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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-06-19, 23:34

dEhiN wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:I'm interested, too, of course. :whistle:

Laquelle langue est-ce que tu n'intéresses pas? (Ça du sens? Je veux dire "what language are you not interested in?")

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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby dEhiN » 2018-06-24, 17:59

vijayjohn wrote:
dEhiN wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:I'm interested, too, of course. :whistle:

Laquelle langue est-ce que tu n'intéresses pas? (Ça du sens? Je veux dire "what language are you not interested in?")

Les idéolangues

Qu'est-ce que c'est ?
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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-06-24, 18:15

dEhiN wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:
dEhiN wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:I'm interested, too, of course. :whistle:

Laquelle langue est-ce que tu n'intéresses pas? (Ça du sens? Je veux dire "what language are you not interested in?")

Les idéolangues

Qu'est-ce que c'est ?

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Re: TAC 2017-2018 Luís

Postby Luís » 2018-07-12, 17:45

Time for a quick update!

Update

(fr)
Le portugais économique et commercial (page 235/288)

+ 7 episodes of Pékin Express (season 9)

(es)
Historia de America Latina (page 100/204)

(he)
Assimil Hebrew (Lesson 81/85)
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