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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-11, 14:20

Car wrote:Well, at least you could help the kids after all, even though that must have felt quite bad indeed.

Right, I've been too hard on myself. On the bright side, there are many Kurds here in Antalya, and just in 1 day I was able to speak with someone from Muş, Diyarbakır and Batman, in Kurdish, and I understood them all. (And no need to mention, I speak in Turkish all the time).
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby księżycowy » 2019-02-11, 15:26

What does the Dark Knight have to do with Kurds?

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Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-11, 16:16

What does the bright side have to do with the Dark Knight? :hmm:

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-11, 16:33

vijayjohn wrote:What does the bright side have to do with the Dark Knight? :hmm:

Ksiezycowy's question is about Batman, I assume.

Batman is a city in Turkey; as for the etymology, I cannot find a trustable explanation; could it be that -man is a Persian suffix?
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Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-11, 16:51

-e-man means 'of me' in Persian, and -emân means 'our'. Man just means 'I, me'. *shrug*

The English Wikipedia article on the river at least gives a citation for the possibility that it's named after the Batı Raman mountain. It also mentions the possibility that it refers to an Ottoman unit of weight but without a citation.

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Postby księżycowy » 2019-02-11, 17:40

"I am Batman."

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-11, 20:22

I found a collection of Turkish school textbooks in the house that I rented, which apparently belong to its previous tenant, a school teacher. I started reading Grade 9 History and read Unit 1 "Tarih ve Tarih Yazıcılığı". This completes the round "Turkish reading" of my language plan.
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Next is "Arabic videos", and I want to watch something on Netflix.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby eskandar » 2019-02-12, 1:09

vijayjohn wrote:The English Wikipedia article on the river at least gives a citation for the possibility that it's named after the Batı Raman mountain. It also mentions the possibility that it refers to an Ottoman unit of weight but without a citation.

I sort of doubt the Batı Raman explanation - sounds like folk etymology. OED suggests the unit of weight explanation; the unit in question is also called a "batman." Some claim that "batman" dates back to proto-Turkic, whereas others suggest that the "man" part is from mina (which became "man" in Persian), also known in English as maund.

Nişanyan's dictionary suggests the following etymology for Batman:
ETü: [ Kaşgarî, Divan-i Lugati't-Türk, 1073]
batmān: al-minā [yaklaşık yarım kilogramlık tartı birimi]
<< ETü batman tartı birimi ~ OFa padmān ölçü (Kaynak: D-M sf. 269)

→ peyman

Not: [düzeltildi: 24/02/2018] Aynı İrani sözcük modern Farsçaya paymān "ölçü" şeklinde gelmiştir.


Also, that's really cool that you found old Turkish textbooks in your house!
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-12, 21:41

I watched the first episode of the series Al Hayba on Netflix, in Arabic with English subtitles.

Next round is "Kurdish reading". I will read texts and do exercises from the book "Hînker".
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-18, 22:45

I did a few exercises from Hînker, and I think I'll do a few more. I want to finish Unit 5.

Meanwhile I watched the film "IO" on Netflix in Turkish. It feels a bit wrong to watch a dub of something that I can watch in the original English... but I can't help it that I can't find original Turkish shows that interest me. I am even thinking of watching "Black Mirror" in Turkish. :para:
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-19, 21:17

I added a Burak King song to lyricstraining:
https://lyricstraining.com/tr/play/bura ... HDLkEvrk7D

And I can see on their website that they created a phone app as well. Going to try it out!
EDIT: I tried it and it looks awesome and entertaining! On the app, you do multiple choice instead of typing the lyrics, which gives it more of a game feeling. The only bad thing is that I can't play my own songs in the app. :( I wrote them an email asking if they are going to add this option.

EDIT2: And another bad thing is that it's not free. I can only play 3 songs per 30 mins in the free version.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-19, 23:42

And I finished the full cycle of my language plan!

It took me 20 days, and I did 9 different activities. Not bad, considering that I moved to a different city in between.

Next on the list is Arabic reading -- I'll read a story or two from "Kalila wa Dimna" for that.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-20, 23:01

The lyricstraining app is really awesome and it's become my favourite language learning app. I did many songs for Turkish and a few for other languages (Italian, German, Polish, English), and I really enjoy it.

They replied to my email and said they are planning to add the feature that lets you play you own songs in the app. Can't wait until it appears!
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