TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby Antea » 2018-07-22, 21:03

I am still worse :(
But I have found another YouTube channel for learning Kurmanji, and I am watching it.

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby księżycowy » 2018-07-22, 21:38

vijayjohn wrote:Sorry for doing almost nothing for Kurmandji this week. :(

Or any other languages! *Grumble, grumble* :pissed:

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-07-22, 21:49

I know. :cry:

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2018-07-23, 8:47

vijayjohn wrote:Sorry for doing almost nothing for Kurmandji this week. :(

Are you going to continue?
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-07-23, 9:13

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vijayjohn wrote:Sorry for doing almost nothing for Kurmandji this week. :(

Are you going to continue?

Of course! I'll try to do something today. I've just been in kind of low spirits lately. :para:

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2018-07-23, 13:06

vijayjohn wrote:Of course! I'll try to do something today. I've just been in kind of low spirits lately. :para:

:kiss:
It happens. Relax and take your time. We are not in a hurry.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby księżycowy » 2018-07-23, 13:41

vijayjohn wrote:Of course! I'll try to do something today. I've just been in kind of low spirits lately. :para:

I guess I can forgive you then.

I guess.....

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-07-23, 13:54

Thanks! :)

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2018-07-26, 10:19

Just a few thoughts about language learning.

I've got bored of my Anki cards. This time I could see it coming. However amusing a method seems at first, I eventually get bored of it after a few months (3-4 months seems to be an average amount). In the past I kept struggling to continue using the method, until I became totally demotivated, and found a new method, and this period of stagnation could last a few months. I've learnt a lesson: I should embrace it and switch to something else immediately when I see that my interest has faded. (After many years of language learning, I've learnt something as trivial as this :roll: )

For Kurdish, something as easy as creating a study group, and starting using Memrise again, could renew my interest -- so a method change does not need to be radical.

This explains why it's hard to do a textbook from cover to cover -- unless I manage to do it within 3-4 months while the interest is still strong. I have to either change the book or change the method I work through the book with.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-08-01, 12:19

I hope I'm still helping you feel motivated in the Kurmanji study group (even though I realize we're a little behind schedule in it :para:)! :)

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2018-08-01, 13:29

vijayjohn wrote:I hope I'm still helping you feel motivated in the Kurmanji study group (even though I realize we're a little behind schedule in it :para:)! :)

Absolutely! You are inspiring me to continue with Kurdish!

It's ok that we're a bit behind the schedule. For the next chapter I think I will extend the term to 3 weeks for 1 chapter, so that we don't feel in a hurry. There are just 8 chapters after all.

I'll try to reply to your posts in the study group today.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-08-02, 0:23

voron wrote:I'll try to reply to your posts in the study group today.

And thanks for doing that! :D

Hopefully, I'll actually be able to keep up our earlier pace this week. Just in case you were wondering, I was distracted last week by all these people on a certain other forum shocking me by supporting an English user who has defended British colonialism while talking to me. British colonialism came fairly close to killing my grandfather, so someone telling me they support it seems dangerously close to telling me I shouldn't exist.

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2018-08-07, 18:28

I am collecting papers for my residence permit and, together with work, it exhausts me. Sorry guys, don't feel like doing anything language-wise these days.

(I had already applied for the permit, but the rules changed and now I need extra papers -- which are a hell to make because Istanbul is overcrowded and you have to queue for hours at every public institution, and oftentimes literally fight for your place in the queue).
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-08-08, 0:39

voron wrote:Sorry guys, don't feel like doing anything language-wise these days.

That is actually the perfect opportunity for me to (try to) do some more exercises for Kurdish, the same way you did while I myself wasn't really feeling up to it last week! :mrgreen:

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2018-08-13, 9:09

Guys, I want to improve my Turkish from C1 to C2; do you have any advice about how I can do it effectively?

I currently live in Turkey so it may seem easy given that I am daily surrounded by Turkish. However, it seems like I've hit a plateau: my vocabulary is large enough to handle all the everyday situations, like opening a bank account or seeing a doctor etc; I have Turkish friends with whom I meet nearly every day and I feel comfortable conversing with them; so I don't have an incentive to learn more.

There are areas where I want to improve though. I want to improve specialized vocabulary -- for example I sometimes end up searching for words when discussing politics. I also want to know more proverbs and collocations, and learn more cultural references (mostly quotations from old films, and events from recent Turkey's history). And reading -- I encounter many news words when reading, so I want to reduce this number as well.

Any tips? The only thing I can think of that I don't already do is to do intensive reading with adding every new word to Anki.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby eskandar » 2018-08-13, 22:38

I think intensive reading (perhaps about some of the areas you want to improve--politics, history, etc.) would help, even if you don't necessarily add each new word to Anki. I wonder if there are Turkish books for preparing for university exams, etc., that might help you quickly acquire more specialized vocabulary. In English there are books that help you prepare for law school or graduate school exams, etc., which have lists that are great for improving vocabulary. As a native English speaker, even I used them when studying for the graduate school entrance exam in the US. I know in Iran there are similar guides for taking the concour, the exam for entering university. Maybe there is an equivalent in Turkey? If so, that could be a useful source for improving your technical/specialized vocabulary.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2018-08-14, 7:54

Thanks Eskandar! Books for preparing to university exams do exist, and I'll look for them in a bookshop.

Guys I'll have to slow down my studies for a while: I've got into a fight and broken my hand. :p I've got plaster on it so typing is not very convenient.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby Antea » 2018-08-14, 8:58

أتمنى لك الشفاء العاجل :yep:

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2018-08-14, 11:31

شكرا!
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2018-08-20, 8:47

I am on vacation this week, and I am going on a trip - Adana, Gaziantep, Şanlıurfa. Yes, with my arm in plaster. :p

I'll hardly have time to do anything for our language study groups. Vijay, feel free to move on, and I'll catch up later.
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