TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-11, 14:20

Car wrote:Well, at least you could help the kids after all, even though that must have felt quite bad indeed.

Right, I've been too hard on myself. On the bright side, there are many Kurds here in Antalya, and just in 1 day I was able to speak with someone from Muş, Diyarbakır and Batman, in Kurdish, and I understood them all. (And no need to mention, I speak in Turkish all the time).
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby księżycowy » 2019-02-11, 15:26

What does the Dark Knight have to do with Kurds?

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Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-11, 16:16

What does the bright side have to do with the Dark Knight? :hmm:

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-11, 16:33

vijayjohn wrote:What does the bright side have to do with the Dark Knight? :hmm:

Ksiezycowy's question is about Batman, I assume.

Batman is a city in Turkey; as for the etymology, I cannot find a trustable explanation; could it be that -man is a Persian suffix?
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-11, 16:51

-e-man means 'of me' in Persian, and -emân means 'our'. Man just means 'I, me'. *shrug*

The English Wikipedia article on the river at least gives a citation for the possibility that it's named after the Batı Raman mountain. It also mentions the possibility that it refers to an Ottoman unit of weight but without a citation.

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby księżycowy » 2019-02-11, 17:40

"I am Batman."

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-11, 20:22

I found a collection of Turkish school textbooks in the house that I rented, which apparently belong to its previous tenant, a school teacher. I started reading Grade 9 History and read Unit 1 "Tarih ve Tarih Yazıcılığı". This completes the round "Turkish reading" of my language plan.
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Next is "Arabic videos", and I want to watch something on Netflix.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby eskandar » 2019-02-12, 1:09

vijayjohn wrote:The English Wikipedia article on the river at least gives a citation for the possibility that it's named after the Batı Raman mountain. It also mentions the possibility that it refers to an Ottoman unit of weight but without a citation.

I sort of doubt the Batı Raman explanation - sounds like folk etymology. OED suggests the unit of weight explanation; the unit in question is also called a "batman." Some claim that "batman" dates back to proto-Turkic, whereas others suggest that the "man" part is from mina (which became "man" in Persian), also known in English as maund.

Nişanyan's dictionary suggests the following etymology for Batman:
ETü: [ Kaşgarî, Divan-i Lugati't-Türk, 1073]
batmān: al-minā [yaklaşık yarım kilogramlık tartı birimi]
<< ETü batman tartı birimi ~ OFa padmān ölçü (Kaynak: D-M sf. 269)

→ peyman

Not: [düzeltildi: 24/02/2018] Aynı İrani sözcük modern Farsçaya paymān "ölçü" şeklinde gelmiştir.


Also, that's really cool that you found old Turkish textbooks in your house!
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2019-02-12, 21:41

I watched the first episode of the series Al Hayba on Netflix, in Arabic with English subtitles.

Next round is "Kurdish reading". I will read texts and do exercises from the book "Hînker".
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