Conjunction "or"

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Conjunction "or"

Postby Linguaphile » 2022-01-25, 2:55

What word would be used to translate the word "or" in these contexts?

(1) Next year I want to travel to Myanmar or Thailand. (I have to choose one place or the other)
(2) Next year I want to travel to Myanmar, or Burma. (no choice needed, they are two names for the same place)
If no conjunction can be used for (2) and instead it's necessary to use a longer phrase like "also known as", please indicate that, too. I expect that to be the case in some languages. But if a conjunction similar to the one in (1) can be used in (2), please use that one!

(en) (1) or (2) or

(es) (1) o (2) o

(ru) (1) или (2) или

(lv) (1) vai (2) jeb

(et) (1) või (2) ehk
(fi) (1) vai (2) eli
(vot) (1) vai (2) vai
(vro) (1) vai (2) vai

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Re: Conjunction "or"

Postby TheStrayCat » 2022-01-25, 3:10

Ukrainian has two or words which are synonymous in most contexts, but only one of them sounds natural in the second sentence.

(en) (1) or (2) or

(es) (1) o (2) o

(ru) (1) или (2) или
(uk) (1) або / чи (2) або

(lv) (1) vai (2) jeb

(et) (1) või (2) ehk
(fi) (1) vai (2) eli
(vot) (1) vai (2) vai
(vro) (1) vai (2) vai

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Re: Conjunction "or"

Postby Linguaphile » 2022-01-25, 4:13

TheStrayCat wrote:Ukrainian has two or words which are synonymous in most contexts, but only one of them sounds natural in the second sentence.

Thanks!

Naava wrote:

Naava, if you're reading this, will you check the Finnish? I'm not sure if maybe I should have used "tai" instead of "vai".
Maybe we should have three sentences instead of two, to distinguish "tai" from "vai" as well. :mrgreen:


(en) (1) or (2) or

(es) (1) o (2) o

(ru) (1) или (2) или
(uk) (1) або / чи (2) або

(lv) (1) vai (2) jeb

(et) (1) või (2) ehk
(fi) (1) vai (2) eli
(vot) (1) vai (2) vai
(vro) (1) vai (2) vai[/quote]

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Re: Conjunction "or"

Postby nijk » 2022-01-25, 8:21

(en) (1) or (2) or

(es) (1) o (2) o
(it) (1) o / oppure (2) cioè / ovvero / ovverosia

(ru) (1) или (2) или
(uk) (1) або / чи (2) або

(lv) (1) vai (2) jeb

(et) (1) või (2) ehk
(fi) (1) vai (2) eli
(vot) (1) vai (2) vai
(vro) (1) vai (2) vai

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Re: Conjunction "or"

Postby Naava » 2022-01-25, 10:40

Linguaphile wrote:Naava, if you're reading this, will you check the Finnish? I'm not sure if maybe I should have used "tai" instead of "vai".
Maybe we should have three sentences instead of two, to distinguish "tai" from "vai" as well. :mrgreen:

You know what? You got it wrong. :lol: You can't use "vai" in declarative sentences. In questions, you use "vai" when you have listed all the possible options (which someone has to choose from) and "tai" when you think they could choose one of the options or something else or nothing. An example:

Haluatko matkustaa Myanmariin tai Thaimaahan?
Do you want to travel to Myanmar or [tai] Thailand?
--> You think the answer could be "Myanmar" or "Thailand" or "both" or "neither, I want to go somewhere else".

Haluatko matkustaa Myanmariin vai Thaimaahan?
Do you want to travel to Myanmar or [vai] Thailand?
--> You must choose either Myanmar or Thailand. Which one do you want to go to?

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I'll correct the Finnish one and add South Ostrobothnian. "eli" is the older word for "or" in my dialect but it's not used a lot anymore. You can still sometimes hear it though, at least in phrases that end "...or not" (like "whether you like it or not").

(en) (1) or (2) or

(es) (1) o (2) o
(it) (1) o / oppure (2) cioè / ovvero / ovverosia

(ru) (1) или (2) или
(uk) (1) або / чи (2) або

(lv) (1) vai (2) jeb

(et) (1) või (2) ehk
(fi) (1) tai (2) eli
(fi) (1) tai, (in some contexts: eli) (2) eli, elikkä (South Ostrobothnian)
(vot) (1) vai (2) vai
(vro) (1) vai (2) vai

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Re: Conjunction "or"

Postby h34 » 2022-01-26, 16:42

(en) (1) or (2) or
(de) (1) oder (2) oder

(es) (1) o (2) o
(it) (1) o / oppure (2) cioè / ovvero / ovverosia

(ru) (1) или (2) или
(uk) (1) або / чи (2) або

(lv) (1) vai (2) jeb

(et) (1) või (2) ehk
(fi) (1) tai (2) eli
(fi) (1) tai, (in some contexts: eli) (2) eli, elikkä (South Ostrobothnian)
(kv-kpv) (1) либӧ (in statements) (2) мӧд ногӧн кӧ
(mhr) (1) ала / я / але (2) але
(vot) (1) vai (2) vai
(vro) (1) vai (2) vai

(tt) (1) яки / яйсә / я (2) ягъни

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Re: Conjunction "or"

Postby Linguaphile » 2022-01-29, 20:02

(en) (1) or (2) or
(de) (1) oder (2) oder

(es) (1) o (2) o
(it) (1) o / oppure (2) cioè / ovvero / ovverosia

(ru) (1) или (2) или
(uk) (1) або / чи (2) або

(lv) (1) vai (2) jeb
(ltg) (1) voi (2) aba

(et) (1) või (2) ehk
(fi) (1) tai (2) eli
(fi) (1) tai, (in some contexts: eli) (2) eli, elikkä (South Ostrobothnian)
(kv-kpv) (1) либӧ (in statements) (2) мӧд ногӧн кӧ
(mhr) (1) ала / я / але (2) але
(vot) (1) vai (2) vai
(vro) (1) vai (2) vai

(tt) (1) яки / яйсә / я (2) ягъни

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Re: Conjunction "or"

Postby Multiturquoise » 2022-02-01, 19:54

(en) (1) or (2) or
(de) (1) oder (2) oder

(es) (1) o (2) o
(it) (1) o / oppure (2) cioè / ovvero / ovverosia

(ru) (1) или (2) или
(uk) (1) або / чи (2) або

(lv) (1) vai (2) jeb
(ltg) (1) voi (2) aba

(et) (1) või (2) ehk
(fi) (1) tai (2) eli
(fi) (1) tai, (in some contexts: eli) (2) eli, elikkä (South Ostrobothnian)
(kv-kpv) (1) либӧ (in statements) (2) мӧд ногӧн кӧ
(mhr) (1) ала / я / але (2) але
(vot) (1) vai (2) vai
(vro) (1) vai (2) vai

(tr) (1) ya / ya da / veya (2) yani
(tt) (1) яки / яйсә / я (2) ягъни
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Re: Conjunction "or"

Postby Linguaphile » 2022-02-10, 4:16

(en) (1) or (2) or
(de) (1) oder (2) oder

(es) (1) o (2) o
(fr) (1) ou (2) ou encore :?:
(it) (1) o / oppure (2) cioè / ovvero / ovverosia

(ru) (1) или (2) или
(uk) (1) або / чи (2) або

(lv) (1) vai (2) jeb
(ltg) (1) voi (2) aba

(et) (1) või (2) ehk
(fi) (1) tai (2) eli
(fi) (1) tai, (in some contexts: eli) (2) eli, elikkä (South Ostrobothnian)
(kv-kpv) (1) либӧ (in statements) (2) мӧд ногӧн кӧ
(mhr) (1) ала / я / але (2) але
(smi-sme) (1) dehe (2) dahje
(smi-smj) (1) ađai / tâi / teikâ (2) ađai / taihe
(smi-sms) (1) le'be (2) le'be
(vot) (1) vai (2) vai
(vro) (1) vai (2) vai

(tr) (1) ya / ya da / veya (2) yani
(tt) (1) яки / яйсә / я (2) ягъни

(ar) (1) أو (2) أو

(hmn) (1) los / lossis / losyog (2) hu tau ua

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Re: Conjunction "or"

Postby Liggliluff » 2022-06-21, 4:45

+Swedish
(en) (1) or (2) or
(de) (1) oder (2) oder
(sv) (1) eller (2) eller

(es) (1) o (2) o
(fr) (1) ou (2) ou encore :?:
(it) (1) o / oppure (2) cioè / ovvero / ovverosia

(ru) (1) или (2) или
(uk) (1) або / чи (2) або

(lv) (1) vai (2) jeb
(ltg) (1) voi (2) aba

(et) (1) või (2) ehk
(fi) (1) tai (2) eli
(fi) (1) tai, (in some contexts: eli) (2) eli, elikkä (South Ostrobothnian)
(kv-kpv) (1) либӧ (in statements) (2) мӧд ногӧн кӧ
(mhr) (1) ала / я / але (2) але
(smi-sme) (1) dehe (2) dahje
(smi-smj) (1) ađai / tâi / teikâ (2) ađai / taihe
(smi-sms) (1) le'be (2) le'be
(vot) (1) vai (2) vai
(vro) (1) vai (2) vai

(tr) (1) ya / ya da / veya (2) yani
(tt) (1) яки / яйсә / я (2) ягъни

(ar) (1) أو (2) أو

(hmn) (1) los / lossis / losyog (2) hu tau ua


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