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to steal - a thief

Postby voron » 2020-07-27, 12:32

In almost every language that I have studied, the most common words for "to steal" and "a thief" come from different roots. I wonder how common it is around the world.

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(en) to steal - a thief

(it) rubare - ladro

(ru) красть - вор
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(tr) çalmak - hırsız

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby h34 » 2020-07-27, 14:09

Highlight the translation with blue if the words come from the same root. It'd also be interesting to hear you guys' thoughts on why this distinction occurred.

Adding German and Latvian

(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(ru) красть - вор
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(tr) çalmak - hırsız

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby Linguaphile » 2020-07-27, 14:28

+ Spanish, French, various Finnic, Saamic, and Hmongic languages

Highlight the translation with blue if the words come from the same root. It'd also be interesting to hear you guys' thoughts on why this distinction occurred.


(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(es) robar - ladrón
(fr) voler - voleur
(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(ru) красть - вор
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(tr) çalmak - hırsız

(et) varastama - varas
(fi) varastaa - varas
(izh) varastaa - varas
(liv) salāndõ - salāj
(smi-smj) suoládit - suola
(smi-sme) suoládit - suola
(smi-smk) суэлнэ - сӯлл
(smi-smn) suáˈládiđ - suolâ
(smi-smp) suoládit - suola
(smi-sms) suâleed - suõl
(smi-sma) sualadidh - soelege
(vep) vargassaa - vargaz
(vot) vargassaa - vargas
(vro) varastama - varas

(hmn-daw) nyiag - tub sab
(hmn-nju) nyag - tub saab
(hmn-chu) nyas - dob shangb

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby aldar » 2020-07-27, 15:11

+ Czech, Slovak

Highlight the translation with blue if the words come from the same root. It'd also be interesting to hear you guys' thoughts on why this distinction occurred.


(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(es) robar - ladrón
(fr) voler - voleur
(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(cs) krást - zloděj
(ru) красть - вор
(sk) kradnúť - zlodej
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(tr) çalmak - hırsız

(et) varastama - varas
(fi) varastaa - varas
(izh) varastaa - varas
(liv) salāndõ - salāj
(smi-smj) suoládit - suola
(smi-sme) suoládit - suola
(smi-smk) суэлнэ - сӯлл
(smi-smn) suáˈládiđ - suolâ
(smi-smp) suoládit - suola
(smi-sms) suâleed - suõl
(smi-sma) sualadidh - soelege
(vep) vargassaa - vargaz
(vot) vargassaa - vargas
(vro) varastama - varas

(hmn-daw) nyiag - tub sab
(hmn-nju) nyag - tub saab
(hmn-chu) nyas - dob shangb[/quote]

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby linguoboy » 2020-07-27, 15:19

(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(cy) dwyn, lladrata - lleidr
(ga) goid, bradaigh - gadaí, bradaí

(es) robar - ladrón
(fr) voler - voleur
(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(cs) krást - zloděj
(ru) красть - вор
(sk) kradnúť - zlodej
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(tr) çalmak - hırsız

(et) varastama - varas
(fi) varastaa - varas
(izh) varastaa - varas
(liv) salāndõ - salāj
(smi-smj) suoládit - suola
(smi-sme) suoládit - suola
(smi-smk) суэлнэ - сӯлл
(smi-smn) suáˈládiđ - suolâ
(smi-smp) suoládit - suola
(smi-sms) suâleed - suõl
(smi-sma) sualadidh - soelege
(vep) vargassaa - vargaz
(vot) vargassaa - vargas
(vro) varastama - varas

(hmn-daw) nyiag - tub sab
(hmn-nju) nyag - tub saab
(hmn-chu) nyas - dob shangb[/quote]

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby Linguaphile » 2020-07-27, 16:00

+ Aymara, Quechua, Mapudungun, Ewe, Ga, Twi, Chuvash, some varieties of Mayan

(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(cy) dwyn, lladrata - lleidr
(ga) goid, bradaigh - gadaí, bradaí

(es) robar - ladrón
(fr) voler - voleur
(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(cs) krást - zloděj
(ru) красть - вор
(sk) kradnúť - zlodej
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(tr) çalmak - hırsız

(cv) вӑрла - вăрă

(et) varastama - varas
(fi) varastaa - varas
(izh) varastaa - varas
(liv) salāndõ - salāj
(smi-smj) suoládit - suola
(smi-sme) suoládit - suola
(smi-smk) суэлнэ - сӯлл
(smi-smn) suáˈládiđ - suolâ
(smi-smp) suoládit - suola
(smi-sms) suâleed - suõl
(smi-sma) sualadidh - soelege
(vep) vargassaa - vargaz
(vot) vargassaa - vargas
(vro) varastama - varas

(hmn-daw) nyiag - tub sab
(hmn-nju) nyag - tub saab
(hmn-chu) nyas - dob shangb

(osa) mąąðǫ́ - wamąąðǫ́štą

(myn-cak) eleq’anïk - eleq’om
(myn-quc) elaq’anik/elaq’aj - elaq’om
(myn-yua) ookol - ookol

(qu) suway - suwa
(ay) lunthataña - lunthata

(arn) weñen - weñefe

(ee) fi - fiafitɔ
(gaa) ju - julɔ
(twi) wia - awi

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby Naava » 2020-07-27, 18:08

+ Southern Ostrobothnian

(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(cy) dwyn, lladrata - lleidr
(ga) goid, bradaigh - gadaí, bradaí

(es) robar - ladrón
(fr) voler - voleur
(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(cs) krást - zloděj
(ru) красть - вор
(sk) kradnúť - zlodej
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(tr) çalmak - hırsız

(cv) вӑрла - вăрă

(et) varastama - varas
(fi) varastaa - varas
(fi) varaastaa - varaas (Southern Ostrobothnian)
(izh) varastaa - varas
(liv) salāndõ - salāj
(smi-smj) suoládit - suola
(smi-sme) suoládit - suola
(smi-smk) суэлнэ - сӯлл
(smi-smn) suáˈládiđ - suolâ
(smi-smp) suoládit - suola
(smi-sms) suâleed - suõl
(smi-sma) sualadidh - soelege
(vep) vargassaa - vargaz
(vot) vargassaa - vargas
(vro) varastama - varas

(hmn-daw) nyiag - tub sab
(hmn-nju) nyag - tub saab
(hmn-chu) nyas - dob shangb

(osa) mąąðǫ́ - wamąąðǫ́štą

(myn-cak) eleq’anïk - eleq’om
(myn-quc) elaq’anik/elaq’aj - elaq’om
(myn-yua) ookol - ookol

(qu) suway - suwa
(ay) lunthataña - lunthata

(arn) weñen - weñefe

(ee) fi - fiafitɔ
(gaa) ju - julɔ
(twi) wia - awi

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby h34 » 2020-07-27, 19:11

+ Komi-Zyrian, Meadow Mari, Mansi, Hill Mari, Erzya, Udmurt

(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(cy) dwyn, lladrata - lleidr
(ga) goid, bradaigh - gadaí, bradaí

(es) robar - ladrón
(fr) voler - voleur
(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(cs) krást - zloděj
(ru) красть - вор
(sk) kradnúť - zlodej
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(tr) çalmak - hırsız

(cv) вӑрла - вăрă

(et) varastama - varas
(fi) varastaa - varas
(izh) varastaa - varas
(kv-kpv) гусявны - гусясьысь
(liv) salāndõ - salāj
(mhr) шолышташ - шолыштшо
(mns) тӯлмантаӈкве - тӯлмах
(mrj) шолышташ - шолы
(myv) саламс - салыця
(smi-smj) suoládit - suola
(smi-sme) suoládit - suola
(smi-smk) суэлнэ - сӯлл
(smi-smn) suáˈládiđ - suolâ
(smi-smp) suoládit - suola
(smi-sms) suâleed - suõl
(smi-sma) sualadidh - soelege
(udm) лушканы - лушкашкись
(vep) vargassaa - vargaz
(vot) vargassaa - vargas
(vro) varastama - varas

(hmn-daw) nyiag - tub sab
(hmn-nju) nyag - tub saab
(hmn-chu) nyas - dob shangb

(osa) mąąðǫ́ - wamąąðǫ́štą

(myn-cak) eleq’anïk - eleq’om
(myn-quc) elaq’anik/elaq’aj - elaq’om
(myn-yua) ookol - ookol

(qu) suway - suwa
(ay) lunthataña - lunthata

(arn) weñen - weñefe

(ee) fi - fiafitɔ
(gaa) ju - julɔ
(twi) wia - awi

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby Multiturquoise » 2020-07-27, 19:33

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(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(cy) dwyn, lladrata - lleidr
(ga) goid, bradaigh - gadaí, bradaí

(es) robar - ladrón
(fr) voler - voleur
(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(cs) krást - zloděj
(ru) красть - вор
(sk) kradnúť - zlodej
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(az) oğurlamaq - oğru
(gag) çalmaa - ırsız
(tk) ogurlamak - ogry
(tr) çalmak - hırsız

(ug) oghurlimaq (ئوغۇرلىماق) - oghri (ئوغرى)
(uz) oʻgʻirlamoq - oʻgʻri

(ba) урлау - ҡараҡ
(crh) çalmaq - hırsız
(kaa) urlaw (урлаў) - uri' (уры)
(kdr) (Crimean) oğırlamaq/oğırlamaq - oğrı
(kdr) (Trakai) urlama - uru/urlavčy
(kk) ұрлау - ұры
(krc) урларгъа - гудучу
(kum) урламакъ - уручу
(ky) уурдоо - ууру
(nog) урлав - уры
(tt) урлау - карак

(alt) уурданар - уурчы
(kjh) оғырлирға - оғыр
(sah) уор - уоруйах
(tyv) оорлаар - оор

(cv) вӑрла - вӑрӑ

(et) varastama - varas
(fi) varastaa - varas
(izh) varastaa - varas
(kv-kpv) гусявны - гусясьысь
(liv) salāndõ - salāj
(mhr) шолышташ - шолыштшо
(mns) тӯлмантаӈкве - тӯлмах
(mrj) шолышташ - шолы
(myv) саламс - салыця
(smi-smj) suoládit - suola
(smi-sme) suoládit - suola
(smi-smk) суэлнэ - сӯлл
(smi-smn) suáˈládiđ - suolâ
(smi-smp) suoládit - suola
(smi-sms) suâleed - suõl
(smi-sma) sualadidh - soelege
(udm) лушканы - лушкашкись
(vep) vargassaa - vargaz
(vot) vargassaa - vargas
(vro) varastama - varas

(hmn-daw) nyiag - tub sab
(hmn-nju) nyag - tub saab
(hmn-chu) nyas - dob shangb

(osa) mąąðǫ́ - wamąąðǫ́štą

(myn-cak) eleq’anïk - eleq’om
(myn-quc) elaq’anik/elaq’aj - elaq’om
(myn-yua) ookol - ookol

(qu) suway - suwa
(ay) lunthataña - lunthata

(arn) weñen - weñefe

(ee) fi - fiafitɔ
(gaa) ju - julɔ
(twi) wia - awi

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby Naava » 2020-08-04, 8:54

Adding Southern Ostrobothnia back.

(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(cy) dwyn, lladrata - lleidr
(ga) goid, bradaigh - gadaí, bradaí

(es) robar - ladrón
(fr) voler - voleur
(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(cs) krást - zloděj
(ru) красть - вор
(sk) kradnúť - zlodej
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(az) oğurlamaq - oğru
(gag) çalmaa - ırsız
(tk) ogurlamak - ogry
(tr) çalmak - hırsız

(ug) oghurlimaq (ئوغۇرلىماق) - oghri (ئوغرى)
(uz) oʻgʻirlamoq - oʻgʻri

(ba) урлау - ҡараҡ
(crh) çalmaq - hırsız
(kaa) urlaw (урлаў) - uri' (уры)
(kdr) (Crimean) oğırlamaq/oğırlamaq - oğrı
(kdr) (Trakai) urlama - uru/urlavčy
(kk) ұрлау - ұры
(krc) урларгъа - гудучу
(kum) урламакъ - уручу
(ky) уурдоо - ууру
(nog) урлав - уры
(tt) урлау - карак

(alt) уурданар - уурчы
(kjh) оғырлирға - оғыр
(sah) уор - уоруйах
(tyv) оорлаар - оор

(cv) вӑрла - вӑрӑ

(et) varastama - varas
(fi) varastaa - varas
(fi) varaastaa - varaas (Southern Ostrobothnian)
(izh) varastaa - varas
(kv-kpv) гусявны - гусясьысь
(liv) salāndõ - salāj
(mhr) шолышташ - шолыштшо
(mns) тӯлмантаӈкве - тӯлмах
(mrj) шолышташ - шолы
(myv) саламс - салыця
(smi-smj) suoládit - suola
(smi-sme) suoládit - suola
(smi-smk) суэлнэ - сӯлл
(smi-smn) suáˈládiđ - suolâ
(smi-smp) suoládit - suola
(smi-sms) suâleed - suõl
(smi-sma) sualadidh - soelege
(udm) лушканы - лушкашкись
(vep) vargassaa - vargaz
(vot) vargassaa - vargas
(vro) varastama - varas

(hmn-daw) nyiag - tub sab
(hmn-nju) nyag - tub saab
(hmn-chu) nyas - dob shangb

(osa) mąąðǫ́ - wamąąðǫ́štą

(myn-cak) eleq’anïk - eleq’om
(myn-quc) elaq’anik/elaq’aj - elaq’om
(myn-yua) ookol - ookol

(qu) suway - suwa
(ay) lunthataña - lunthata

(arn) weñen - weñefe

(ee) fi - fiafitɔ
(gaa) ju - julɔ
(twi) wia - awi

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby aldar » 2020-08-10, 14:59

Adding Upper and Lower Sorbian

(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(cy) dwyn, lladrata - lleidr
(ga) goid, bradaigh - gadaí, bradaí

(es) robar - ladrón
(fr) voler - voleur
(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(cs) krást - zloděj
(dsb) kšadnuś - złoźej
(hsb) kradnyć - paduch
(ru) красть - вор
(sk) kradnúť - zlodej
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(az) oğurlamaq - oğru
(gag) çalmaa - ırsız
(tk) ogurlamak - ogry
(tr) çalmak - hırsız

(ug) oghurlimaq (ئوغۇرلىماق) - oghri (ئوغرى)
(uz) oʻgʻirlamoq - oʻgʻri

(ba) урлау - ҡараҡ
(crh) çalmaq - hırsız
(kaa) urlaw (урлаў) - uri' (уры)
(kdr) (Crimean) oğırlamaq/oğırlamaq - oğrı
(kdr) (Trakai) urlama - uru/urlavčy
(kk) ұрлау - ұры
(krc) урларгъа - гудучу
(kum) урламакъ - уручу
(ky) уурдоо - ууру
(nog) урлав - уры
(tt) урлау - карак

(alt) уурданар - уурчы
(kjh) оғырлирға - оғыр
(sah) уор - уоруйах
(tyv) оорлаар - оор

(cv) вӑрла - вӑрӑ

(et) varastama - varas
(fi) varastaa - varas
(fi) varaastaa - varaas (Southern Ostrobothnian)
(izh) varastaa - varas
(kv-kpv) гусявны - гусясьысь
(liv) salāndõ - salāj
(mhr) шолышташ - шолыштшо
(mns) тӯлмантаӈкве - тӯлмах
(mrj) шолышташ - шолы
(myv) саламс - салыця
(smi-smj) suoládit - suola
(smi-sme) suoládit - suola
(smi-smk) суэлнэ - сӯлл
(smi-smn) suáˈládiđ - suolâ
(smi-smp) suoládit - suola
(smi-sms) suâleed - suõl
(smi-sma) sualadidh - soelege
(udm) лушканы - лушкашкись
(vep) vargassaa - vargaz
(vot) vargassaa - vargas
(vro) varastama - varas

(hmn-daw) nyiag - tub sab
(hmn-nju) nyag - tub saab
(hmn-chu) nyas - dob shangb

(osa) mąąðǫ́ - wamąąðǫ́štą

(myn-cak) eleq’anïk - eleq’om
(myn-quc) elaq’anik/elaq’aj - elaq’om
(myn-yua) ookol - ookol

(qu) suway - suwa
(ay) lunthataña - lunthata

(arn) weñen - weñefe

(ee) fi - fiafitɔ
(gaa) ju - julɔ
(twi) wia - awi[/quote]

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Re: to steal - a thief

Postby Multiturquoise » 2020-09-08, 9:03

Indonesian

(de) stehlen - Dieb
(en) to steal - a thief

(cy) dwyn, lladrata - lleidr
(ga) goid, bradaigh - gadaí, bradaí

(es) robar - ladrón
(fr) voler - voleur
(it) rubare - ladro

(lv) zagt - zaglis

(cs) krást - zloděj
(dsb) kšadnuś - złoźej
(hsb) kradnyć - paduch
(ru) красть - вор
(sk) kradnúť - zlodej
(sr) krasti - lopov

(ku) dizîn - diz

(ar-sy) حرامي - سرق

(az) oğurlamaq - oğru
(gag) çalmaa - ırsız
(tk) ogurlamak - ogry
(tr) çalmak - hırsız

(ug) oghurlimaq (ئوغۇرلىماق) - oghri (ئوغرى)
(uz) oʻgʻirlamoq - oʻgʻri

(ba) урлау - ҡараҡ
(crh) çalmaq - hırsız
(kaa) urlaw (урлаў) - uri' (уры)
(kdr) (Crimean) oğırlamaq/oğırlamaq - oğrı
(kdr) (Trakai) urlama - uru/urlavčy
(kk) ұрлау - ұры
(krc) урларгъа - гудучу
(kum) урламакъ - уручу
(ky) уурдоо - ууру
(nog) урлав - уры
(tt) урлау - карак

(alt) уурданар - уурчы
(kjh) оғырлирға - оғыр
(sah) уор - уоруйах
(tyv) оорлаар - оор

(cv) вӑрла - вӑрӑ

(et) varastama - varas
(fi) varastaa - varas
(fi) varaastaa - varaas (Southern Ostrobothnian)
(izh) varastaa - varas
(kv-kpv) гусявны - гусясьысь
(liv) salāndõ - salāj
(mhr) шолышташ - шолыштшо
(mns) тӯлмантаӈкве - тӯлмах
(mrj) шолышташ - шолы
(myv) саламс - салыця
(smi-smj) suoládit - suola
(smi-sme) suoládit - suola
(smi-smk) суэлнэ - сӯлл
(smi-smn) suáˈládiđ - suolâ
(smi-smp) suoládit - suola
(smi-sms) suâleed - suõl
(smi-sma) sualadidh - soelege
(udm) лушканы - лушкашкись
(vep) vargassaa - vargaz
(vot) vargassaa - vargas
(vro) varastama - varas

(id) (men)curi - pencuri

(hmn-daw) nyiag - tub sab
(hmn-nju) nyag - tub saab
(hmn-chu) nyas - dob shangb

(osa) mąąðǫ́ - wamąąðǫ́štą

(myn-cak) eleq’anïk - eleq’om
(myn-quc) elaq’anik/elaq’aj - elaq’om
(myn-yua) ookol - ookol

(qu) suway - suwa
(ay) lunthataña - lunthata

(arn) weñen - weñefe

(ee) fi - fiafitɔ
(gaa) ju - julɔ
(twi) wia - awi


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