If you had kept your mouth shut

[Levike]

Something we often say in Romanian:

The Spanish one is literally translated, I don't know if it's correct though.

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.

[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut up, you would have remained a philosopher.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[linguoboy]

"If you had kept quiet/silent/your mouth shut..."

(English doesn't have a verb corresponding to callar, taire, schweigen, etc.)

[Levike]

Thanks.

[IpseDixit]

Do you want a direct translation or an equivalent idiom in other languages?

[Levike]

Direct.

[linguoboy]

Do you want a direct translation or an equivalent idiom in other languages?

Yeah, the most common American English version is "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt." (Often ascribed to Abraham Lincoln or Mark Twain, this is actually a paraphrase of Proverbs 17:28 from a Gilded Age children's book.)

[IpseDixit]

Yeah, the most common American English version is "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

It's the same we have in Italian!

[Bernard]

Latin and German. Trying Italian (verbatim).

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu fossi rimasto in silenzio, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut up, you would have remained a philosopher.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[Dormouse559]

Trying French

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.
[flag=]fr[/flag] Si tu t'étais tu, tu aurais resté philosophe.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu fossi rimasto in silenzio, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut up, you would have remained a philosopher.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[Lauren]

Adding Basque.

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.
[flag=]fr[/flag] Si tu t'étais tu, tu aurais resté philosophe.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu fossi rimasto in silenzio, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut up, you would have remained a philosopher.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[flag=]eu[/flag] Zu isildu bazina, orduan filosofo bat geldituko zinatekeen.

[linguoboy]

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.
[flag=]fr[/flag] Si tu t'étais tu, tu aurais resté philosophe.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu fossi rimasto in silenzio, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]ga[/flag] Dá bhfanfá id' thost, do bheifeá i t'fhealsamh.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut up, you would have remained a philosopher.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[flag=]eu[/flag] Zu isildu bazina, orduan filosofo bat geldituko zinatekeen.

[TheStrayCat]

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.
[flag=]fr[/flag] Si tu t'étais tu, tu aurais resté philosophe.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu fossi rimasto in silenzio, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]ga[/flag] Dá bhfanfá id' thost, do bheifeá i t'fhealsamh.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut up, you would have remained a philosopher.

[flag=]uk[/flag] Якби ти мовчав, залишився б філософом.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[flag=]eu[/flag] Zu isildu bazina, orduan filosofo bat geldituko zinatekeen.

[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.

If the English sentence with third conditional is the original one, it should be something like Si hubieras callado, filósofo habrías permanecido. At least callabas, as far as I know, can't be part of a conditional clause like past tense in English. I just don't touch it because my Spanish is really rusty and I'm afraid of adding another mistake or awkward expression. Any hispanohablantes wanting to comment on this?

[melski]

Fixing French

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.
[flag=]fr[/flag] Si tu t'étais tu, tu serais resté philosophe.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu fossi rimasto in silenzio, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]ga[/flag] Dá bhfanfá id' thost, do bheifeá i t'fhealsamh.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut up, you would have remained a philosopher.

[flag=]uk[/flag] Якби ти мовчав, залишився б філософом.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[flag=]eu[/flag] Zu isildu bazina, orduan filosofo bat geldituko zinatekeen.

[Bernard]

Modifying Italian.

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.
[flag=]fr[/flag] Si tu t'étais tu, tu serais resté philosophe.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu avessi taciuto, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]ga[/flag] Dá bhfanfá id' thost, do bheifeá i t'fhealsamh.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut up, you would have remained a philosopher.

[flag=]uk[/flag] Якби ти мовчав, залишився б філософом.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[flag=]eu[/flag] Zu isildu bazina, orduan filosofo bat geldituko zinatekeen.

[loqu]

[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.

If the English sentence with third conditional is the original one, it should be something like Si hubieras callado, filósofo habrías permanecido. At least callabas, as far as I know, can't be part of a conditional clause like past tense in English. I just don't touch it because my Spanish is really rusty and I'm afraid of adding another mistake or awkward expression. Any hispanohablantes wanting to comment on this?

Since he already asked for the translation on the Spanish forum and I answered there, I think it was up to him to come update the translation, that's why I didn't intervene.

About callabas, imperfect tense can be part of a conditional clause but in very restricted conditions, and it certainly would sound odd in this case.

[Multiturquoise]

Turkish. (?)

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si callabas, filósofo permanecías.
[flag=]fr[/flag] Si tu t'étais tu, tu serais resté philosophe.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu avessi taciuto, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]ga[/flag] Dá bhfanfá id' thost, do bheifeá i t'fhealsamh.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut up, you would have remained a philosopher.

[flag=]uk[/flag] Якби ти мовчав, залишився б філософом.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[flag=]eu[/flag] Zu isildu bazina, orduan filosofo bat geldituko zinatekeen.

[flag=]tr[/flag] Eğer çeneni kapalı tutmuş olsaydın, filozof kalacaktın.

[Levike]

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si te callaras, quedarías como un filósofo.
[flag=]fr[/flag] Si tu t'étais tu, tu serais resté philosophe.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu avessi taciuto, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]ga[/flag] Dá bhfanfá id' thost, do bheifeá i t'fhealsamh.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut up, you would have remained a philosopher.

[flag=]uk[/flag] Якби ти мовчав, залишився б філософом.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[flag=]eu[/flag] Zu isildu bazina, orduan filosofo bat geldituko zinatekeen.

[flag=]tr[/flag] Eğer çeneni kapalı tutmuş olsaydın, filozof kalacaktın. [/quote]

[Ciarán12]

Correcting English (I'm not going to touch linguoboy's mad Munster Irish!)

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si te callaras, quedarías como un filósofo.
[flag=]fr[/flag] Si tu t'étais tu, tu serais resté philosophe.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu avessi taciuto, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]ga[/flag] Dá bhfanfá id' thost, do bheifeá i t'fhealsamh.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut, you would have stayed a philosopher.

[flag=]uk[/flag] Якби ти мовчав, залишився б філософом.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[flag=]eu[/flag] Zu isildu bazina, orduan filosofo bat geldituko zinatekeen.

[flag=]tr[/flag] Eğer çeneni kapalı tutmuş olsaydın, filozof kalacaktın.

[linguoboy]

Correcting English (I'm not going to touch linguoboy's mad Munster Irish!)

Tugaim do ghar orm by ignoring your sílim elsewhere. (Tá sin am chuimilt in aghaidh an fhionnaidh gach uair dá bhfeicim é.)

[Reinder]

Ik heb geen idee hoe deze voorwaardelijke zin in het Nederlands vertaald zou moeten worden. Ik denk dat dit een van mijn grootste problemen in het Nederlands is. Zou degene die de zin vertaalt mij ook een kleine uitleg kunnen geven over de regels betreft voorwaardelijke zinnen? Ik heb op internet gezocht, maar ik heb zo één, twee, drie niks kunnen vinden.

Adding West Frisian.

[flag=]ro[/flag] Dacă tăceai, filozof rămâneai. (original)
[flag=]es[/flag] Si te callaras, quedarías como un filósofo.
[flag=]fr[/flag] Si tu t'étais tu, tu serais resté philosophe.
[flag=]it[/flag] Se tu avessi taciuto, saresti rimasto filosofo.
[flag=]la[/flag] Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.

[flag=]ga[/flag] Dá bhfanfá id' thost, do bheifeá i t'fhealsamh.

[flag=]de[/flag] Wenn du geschwiegen hättest, wärest du Philosoph geblieben.
[flag=]en[/flag] If you had kept your mouth shut, you would have stayed a philosopher.
[flag=]fy[/flag] Ast dyn mûle hâlden hiest, dan wiest filosoof bleaun.

[flag=]uk[/flag] Якби ти мовчав, залишився б філософом.

[flag=]hu[/flag] Ha halgattál volna, filozófusnak maradtál volna.

[flag=]eu[/flag] Zu isildu bazina, orduan filosofo bat geldituko zinatekeen.

[flag=]tr[/flag] Eğer çeneni kapalı tutmuş olsaydın, filozof kalacaktın.