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Postby Strigo » 2004-07-03, 15:41

Hi,

"Ash"

Would you translate this word into your lingoes?

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Postby Eu Sou Eu » 2004-07-03, 16:11

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Postby Nukalurk » 2004-07-03, 16:26

Afrikaans: as
Danish: aske
Dutch: as
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Icelandic: aska
Old English: æsce
Swedish: aska

Esperanto: cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamento: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη

Hungarian: hamu

Russian: пепел, зола
Slovakian: popol

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Postby Kanadaeestlane » 2004-07-03, 17:20

Afrikaans: as
Danish: aske
Dutch: as
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Icelandic: aska
Old English: æsce
Swedish: aska

Esperanto: cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamento: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Russian: пепел, зола
Slovakian: popol

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Postby Car » 2004-07-03, 17:45

Afrikaans: as
Danish: aske
Dutch: as
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Icelandic: aska
Norwegian: aske
Old English: æsce
Swedish: aska

Esperanto: cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamento: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Russian: пепел, зола
Slovakian: popol
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Postby Vlacko » 2004-07-03, 20:14

Afrikaans: as
Danish: aske
Dutch: as
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Icelandic: aska
Norwegian: aske
Old English: æsce
Swedish: aska

Esperanto: cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamento: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Russian: пепел, зола
Slovakian: popol
Serbian: пепео/pepeo
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Postby Leviwosc » 2004-07-03, 23:40

Afrikaans: as
Anglo Saxon: æsce
Danish: aske
Dutch: as
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Icelandic: aska
Norwegian: aske
Old English: æsce
Swedish: aska

Canis: ascæna
Esperanto: cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamentu: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Czech: popel
Polish: popiół
Russian: пепел, зола
Slovakian: popol
Serbian: пепео/pepeo

Latvian: pelni

Bahasa Indonesia: as

Chinese Mandarin: 灰 (hui1)

Turkish: kül
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Afrikaans: as
Anglo Saxon: æsce
Danish: aske
Dutch: as
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Icelandic: aska
Norwegian: aske
Old English: æsce
Swedish: aska

Canis: ascæna
Esperanto: cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Romanian: cenuşă
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamentu: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη [stáchti]

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Czech: popel
Polish: popiół
Russian: пепел [pepel], зола [zola]
Slovakian: popol
Serbian: пепео / pepeo

Latvian: pelni

Bahasa Indonesia: as

Chinese (Mandarin): 灰 [huī]

Japanese: 灰 / はい [hai]

Turkish: kül
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Postby Kess » 2004-07-04, 12:17

Afrikaans: as
Anglo Saxon: æsce, asce, asca
Danish: aske
Dutch: as, asch
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Gothic: azgō
Icelandic: aska
Middle High German: asche
Middle Low German: asche
Norwegian: aske, oska
Old English: æsce
Old High German: asca
Old Swedish: aska
Swedish: aska

Canis: ascæna
Esperanto: cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Romanian: cenuşă
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamentu: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη [stáchti]

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Czech: popel
Polish: popiół
Russian: пепел [pepel], зола [zola]
Slovakian: popol
Serbian: пепео / pepeo

Latvian: pelni

Bahasa Indonesia: as

Chinese (Mandarin): 灰 [huī]

Japanese: 灰 / はい [hai]

Turkish: kül

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Postby Leviwosc » 2004-07-04, 23:09

I'm sorry, " asch " is not used in Dutch, this word needs to be removed. The only correct word for ash in Dutch is, " as ". But I'm curious where Kess have found that 'asch' should be dutch?

Ron.


Afrikaans: as
Anglo Saxon: æsce, asce, asca
Danish: aske
Dutch: as
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Gothic: azgō
Icelandic: aska
Middle High German: asche
Middle Low German: asche
Norwegian: aske, oska
Old English: æsce
Old High German: asca
Old Swedish: aska
Scots: ess, yiss
Swedish: aska

Canis: ascæna
Esperanto: cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Romanian: cenuşă
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamentu: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη [stáchti]

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Czech: popel
Polish: popiół
Russian: пепел [pepel], зола [zola]
Slovakian: popol
Serbian: пепео / pepeo

Latvian: pelni

Bahasa Indonesia: as

Chinese (Mandarin): 灰 [huī]

Japanese: 灰 / はい [hai]

Turkish: kül
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Postby Maja » 2004-07-05, 8:00

Afrikaans: as
Anglo Saxon: æsce, asce, asca
Danish: aske
Dutch: as
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Gothic: azgō
Icelandic: aska
Middle High German: asche
Middle Low German: asche
Norwegian: aske, oska
Old English: æsce
Old High German: asca
Old Swedish: aska
Scots: ess, yiss
Swedish: aska

Canis: ascæna
Esperanto: cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Romanian: cenuşă
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamentu: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη [stáchti]

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Czech: popel
Polish: popiół
Russian: пепел [pepel], зола [zola]
Slovakian: popol
Serbian: пепео / pepeo
Slovenian: pepel

Latvian: pelni

Bahasa Indonesia: as

Chinese (Mandarin): 灰 [huī]

Japanese: 灰 / はい [hai]

Turkish: kül
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Postby paruha » 2004-07-05, 8:10

Afrikaans: as
Anglo Saxon: æsce, asce, asca
Danish: aske
Dutch: as
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Gothic: azgō
Icelandic: aska
Middle High German: asche
Middle Low German: asche
Norwegian: aske, oska
Old English: æsce
Old High German: asca
Old Swedish: aska
Scots: ess, yiss
Swedish: aska

Canis: ascæna
Esperanto: cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Romanian: cenuşă
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamentu: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη [stáchti]

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Bulgarian: пепел [pepel]
Czech: popel
Polish: popiół
Russian: пепел [pepel], зола [zola]
Slovakian: popol
Serbian: пепео / pepeo
Slovenian: pepel

Latvian: pelni

Bahasa Indonesia: as

Chinese (Mandarin): 灰 [huī]

Japanese: 灰 / はい [hai]

Turkish: kül
Защо да харчим пари, които нямаме, за да купим неща, които не са ни нужни, така че да впечатлим хора, които не харесваме?

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Postby Nukalurk » 2004-07-05, 8:35

Afrikaans: as
Anglo Saxon: æsce, asce, asca
Danish: aske
Dutch: as
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Gothic: azgō
Icelandic: aska
Middle High German: asche
Middle Low German: asche
Norwegian: aske, oska
Old English: æsce
Old High German: asca
Old Norse: aska
Old Swedish: aska
Scots: ess, yiss
Swedish: aska

Canis: ascæna
Esperanto (constructed language): cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Portuguese: cinza
Romanian: cenuşă
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamentu: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη [stáchti]

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Bulgarian: пепел [pepel]
Czech: popel
Polish: popiół
Russian: пепел [pepel], зола [zola]
Slovakian: popol
Serbian: пепео / pepeo
Slovenian: pepel
Slovio (constructed language): pepel / пепел

Latvian: pelni
Sūdovian: pelanê

Bahasa Indonesia: as

Chinese (Mandarin): 灰 [huī]

Japanese: 灰 / はい [hai]

Turkish: kül

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Postby Kess » 2004-07-05, 11:19

Afrikaans: as
Anglo Saxon: æsce, asce, asca
Danish: aske
Dutch: as, asch (somewhat older)
English: ash
Faroese: øska
Frisian: jiske
German: Asche
Gothic: azgō
Icelandic: aska
Middle High German: asche
Middle Low German: asche
Norwegian: aske, oska
Old English: æsce
Old High German: asca
Old Norse: aska
Old Swedish: aska
Scots: ess, yiss
Swedish: aska

Canis: ascæna
Esperanto (constructed language): cindro

Catalan: cendra
French: cendre
Italian: cenere
Latin: cinis
Portuguese: cinza
Romanian: cenuşă
Spanish: ceniza

Papiamentu: shinishi

Greek: στάχτη [stáchti]

Hungarian: hamu
Estonian: tuhk

Bulgarian: пепел [pepel]
Czech: popel
Polish: popiół
Russian: пепел [pepel], зола [zola]
Slovakian: popol
Serbian: пепео / pepeo
Slovenian: pepel
Slovio (constructed language): pepel / пепел

Latvian: pelni
Sūdovian: pelanê

Bahasa Indonesia: as

Chinese (Mandarin): 灰 [huī]

Japanese: 灰 / はい [hai]

Turkish: kül


Ron de Leeuw, Cave Canem wrote:I'm sorry, " asch " is not used in Dutch, this word needs to be removed. The only correct word for ash in Dutch is, " as ". But I'm curious where Kess have found that 'asch' should be dutch?

Ron.


(1) Svenska akademiens ordbok (SAOB), entry "aska" (1902): "ETYMOLOGI: [...] holl. asch"

(2) Engelsch woordenboek, Tweede del, nederlandsch–engelsch, Nieuwe [derde?] uitgave (Te Groningen bij J. B. Wolters, sine anno [probably early 1900's]): "Asch, v. ashes" (and for completeness' sake: "As, v. axle, axis")

Looking at the years, can it be a somewhat older form? (That's the newest Dutch lexica I have...) I suggest to put it the way I do now, but if it's not to your liking feel free to remove/change! :)

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Postby Maja » 2004-07-05, 11:36

Amikeco wrote:Slovio (constructed language): pepel / пепел

How is that l pronounced: /l/ or /w/?
Is this Slovio written with Latin script or Cyrillic?
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Postby Nukalurk » 2004-07-05, 14:08

Maja, it is pronounced like an "L"; this language can be written in both Latin and Cyrillic script.

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Postby Maja » 2004-07-05, 14:21

Amikeco wrote:Maja, it is pronounced like an "L"; this language can be written in both Latin and Cyrillic script.

Thanks. :wink:

In our language "L" variates: sometimes it is /l/, sometimes it is /w/. For example: pepel is with /w/.
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Postby Nukalurk » 2004-07-05, 14:33

Okay, but in this language, it is always "L". ;) At least up to now; it is still under construction, but I don't think that they will do such things.

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Postby Leviwosc » 2004-07-06, 2:00

Kess wrote:
Ron de Leeuw, Cave Canem wrote:I'm sorry, " asch " is not used in Dutch, this word needs to be removed. The only correct word for ash in Dutch is, " as ". But I'm curious where Kess have found that 'asch' should be dutch?

Ron.


(1) Svenska akademiens ordbok (SAOB), entry "aska" (1902): "ETYMOLOGI: [...] holl. asch"

(2) Engelsch woordenboek, Tweede del, nederlandsch–engelsch, Nieuwe [derde?] uitgave (Te Groningen bij J. B. Wolters, sine anno [probably early 1900's]): "Asch, v. ashes" (and for completeness' sake: "As, v. axle, axis")

Looking at the years, can it be a somewhat older form? (That's the newest Dutch lexica I have...) I suggest to put it the way I do now, but if it's not to your liking feel free to remove/change! :)


I disagree with you.

I'll explain it very clearly...

the word 'as' in Dutch has 4 meanings...

as = axle: from a wheel
as = ashes: remains of a fire
as = axis: middle-point of an object
as = as: Romian coin

We're talking about the second meaning... remains of a fire.

The etymology of this word, written by Van Dale - Etymologisch Woordenboek 1997, ISBN: 90-6648-312-1. You, should know that Van Dale is a renowned publisher of dictionaries and books about languages and especially for Dutch .

as [fire remaining] < old-Dutch asca 901 - 1000. Middle-Dutch assche > Old-High German asca.

There's no 'ash' in the whole article. Old-Dutch = asca and Middle-Dutch = assche. But 'ash' isn't new Dutch, neither Old-Dutch!

There's also no note about 'ash' in the "Woordenlijst Nederlandse Taal". Better known as "het Groene boekje". It's the only official wordlist, it contains all the new spelling rules; the new spelling of bastard words and the new spelling of compounds. It contains 110.000 words and the rule of thumb is that if a word isn't listed in the 'Woordelijst Nederlandse Taal' that the dictionary of Van Dale has the right spelling. This is because Van Dale change their dictionaries more often while the 'woordenlijst Nederlandse taal' gets refreshed with a spelling reform only. I have the wordlists of 1934, 1954 and 1995; in these years Dutch had a spelling reform. In all these wordlists their's no note about 'ash'.

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Postby Kess » 2004-07-06, 10:07

Ron, I hardly do not know much Dutch. But, if it is as you say, that no word asch exists, why is then apparent in two dictionaries? It may have existed in some form, somewhere, sometime... But I think this is a bit strange! Great! Now I need to go to the library tomorrow, how fun!

It seems best to exclude it from the list, but I won't satisfy my hunger of linguistic knowledge until I've heard/read an explanation of the word asch... ;)


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