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Re: Random language thread 6

Postby Ciarán12 » 2019-09-08, 20:49

Vlürch wrote:So I just realised that I might have overestimated the freeness of Japanese word order in a brain fart moment, but I'm not 100% sure. Is a sentence like 猫の熱狂的に足を掴む (to mean "enthusiastically grab the cat's paw") grammatical? This isn't the exact sentence that made me question it, but the order and "form" of it is the same. In hindsight I'm pretty sure it's not acceptable, but tbh it was in some really shitty lyrics I wrote and it didn't sound fitting in a normal word order no matter what, and I also wrote a line in Russian that I absolutely butchered the pronunciation of, so I figure it doesn't really matter anyway... but I'd want confirmation that it's not an acceptable word order... right?


For what my confirmation is worth, no, it's not. I can't thinknof many examples where you can separate the "posessed" object of the noun preceding the の from the の itself like that.

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Re: Random language thread 6

Postby Ciarán12 » 2019-09-16, 17:24

So I've massively fallen behind on drilling my vocab list for Portuguese. I've been keeping a spreadsheet with every new word and expression I've come across in Portuguese since about October 2017, it's at about 5100 entries now. I had been pumping them into Memrise and drilling them regularly until a few months ago, I've kept the habit of noting the words and expressions down in the sheet but not of actually memorising them. Every attempt to catch up has lead to me giving up due to the volume and the tedium.
I'm taking a new tack - I've found a free text-to-speech service that produces decent output and is free up to 5k characters a day (about 100 entries in my list, it would seem). I'm going to take them in batches of 50 and create mp3s for them and listen to them rather than drilling them in Memrise. I feel like it will be more convenient as well as much faster to get through them all that way.

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Re: Random language thread 6

Postby linguoboy » 2019-09-19, 15:18

One of my friends just called Talk Like a Pirate Day "Talk Like a 19th-century Welshman Day" and I had to take him to school.
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Re: Random language thread 6

Postby Osias » 2019-09-19, 18:52

Did you take him personally or hired a uber? :hmm:

Wait. Is 'hired' correct or is it still under the 'did' umbrella?
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Re: Random language thread 6

Postby Saim » 2019-09-19, 20:17

Osias wrote:Did you take him personally or hired a uber? :hmm:

Wait. Is 'hired' correct or is it still under the 'did' umbrella?


I think I would always ‘get’ or maybe ‘take’ an uber. You’d also ‘take’, ‘get’ or ‘call’ a taxi.

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Re: Random language thread 6

Postby linguoboy » 2019-09-19, 20:36

Saim wrote:
Osias wrote:Did you take him personally or hired an uber?

I think I would always ‘get’ or maybe ‘take’ an uber. You’d also ‘take’, ‘get’ or ‘call’ a taxi.

Since the app you use is on your phone, we often speak of "calling" an Uber/Lyft/etc.

If you "call" a taxi it means you are phoning a dispatcher. If you signal one as it drives by, you are "hailing" or "grabbing" it.
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Re: Random language thread 6

Postby Osias » 2019-09-19, 22:30

Thanks. So I should say 'get' a uber, and not 'got', because the 'did' still applies.

Now seriously, how did you "take him to school"?
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Re: Random language thread 6

Postby linguoboy » 2019-09-19, 22:44

Osias wrote:Thanks. So I should say 'get' a uber, and not 'got', because the 'did' still applies.

You should.

Osias wrote:Now seriously, how did you "take him to school"?

The figurative meaning of "to take someone to school" is pretty much the same as "to school someone", i.e. to teach them a lesson, generally in a harsh or emphatic way. (It can even mean to beat someone up, but I don't use it that way.)
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Re: Random language thread 6

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-09-20, 5:13

Yeah, Osias, linguoboy didn't literally mean he took him to a school! :P It's an expression.


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