Multilingual false friends 2

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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Homine.Sardu » 2018-03-27, 10:47

atalarikt wrote:(la) Luna moon, ancient Roman moon goddess
(haw) luna foreman, boss, supervisor


The name Luna could be related to the Greek "Selene" one of the four goddesses representing the moon phases

Selene : full moon
Arthemis : crescent moon
Hecate : waning moon
Perseis : new moon

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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Luís » 2018-03-28, 9:36

(el) σκύλος (acc. σκύλο) dog
(pt) esquilo squirrel
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Homine.Sardu » 2018-03-29, 8:24

(fr) ramener - to gather all the attentions
(sc) remunire - to store, to keep, to put aside

(fr) frimer - to put yourself on display
(sc) frimmare - to stop, or also to sign

(la) vocare - to call, to attract, to summon
(sc) bogare - to remove

(la) fabula - fable
(sc) fàula - lie

(la) excutere - to shake
(sc) iscùdere - to beat

(la) rumpere - to break
(sc) rumpere - to annoy

(la) quaerere - to ask, to interrogate, to query, to search
(sc) quèrrere - to want to

(la) cantharus - large drinking cup
(sc) càntaru - sink, tub, large tank

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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Vlürch » 2018-04-05, 6:09

Probably posted before, but:
Japanese (ja) (kami) - god
Japanese (ja) (kami) - paper
Japanese (ja) (kami) - hair
Malay (ms) kami - we (exclusive)
Indonesian (id) kami - we (exclusive)

Japanese (ja) (sama) - a honorific
Malay (ms) sama - same, equal, with
Indonesian (id) sama - same, equal, with

So,
Japanese (ja) 神様 (kamisama) - God
Malay (ms) Indonesian (id) kami sama - we're equal :?:

I have no idea if Malay and Indonesian allow zero copulation* or not (the Wikipedia article on zero copula includes them as an example but has no actual details, nor do the individual articles mention it) or if those two words can exist next to each other in that order (one of the example sentences on Wiktionary for sama has "sama kami", though), but it's funny even if it isn't grammatically correct? :P

*I know "zero copulation" isn't the proper term, but it's too good a pun to miss.

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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby atalarikt » 2018-04-05, 8:58

Vlürch wrote:Japanese (ja) 神様 (kamisama) - God
Malay (ms) Indonesian (id) kami sama - we're (exclusive) equal :?:

I have no idea if Malay and Indonesian allow zero copulation* or not (the Wikipedia article on zero copula includes them as an example but has no actual details, nor do the individual articles mention it) or if those two words can exist next to each other in that order (one of the example sentences on Wiktionary for sama has "sama kami", though), but it's funny even if it isn't grammatically correct? :P

*I know "zero copulation" isn't the proper term, but it's too good a pun to miss.

Kami sama is grammatically correct in Indonesian/Malay. And yes, Indonesian/Malay allows zero copulation. :lol:
Sama kami is a shortened form of bersama kami, which means "(together) with us".
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby h34 » 2018-04-17, 13:59

(lv) bauda enjoyment, treat, delight
(lt) bauda penalty, surcharge, fine

(da) ej [] no(t) (e.g. 'ja eller ej')
(sco) aye [] yes
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Michael » 2018-05-12, 19:27

(ro) grădină garden
(nap) gradino [gɾaˈdiːnə] step, rung
(it) gradino id
American English (en-us) Pizzonese (nap) N Italian (it) Mexican Spanish (es-mx) Brazilian Portuguese (pt-br) Albanian (sq) B1 Greek (el) Persian (fa) A2 Romanian (ro) Old English (en_old) Turkish (tr) Azerbaijani (az) A1
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Lutrinae » 2018-05-22, 12:09

(pt-br) Palestra: conference
(it) Palestra: gymnasium
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby h34 » 2018-05-23, 16:07

(lv) briedis (red) deer, stag
(lt) briedis moose, elk

(lv) alnis moose, elk
(lt) elnias (red) deer, stag
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Lutrinae » 2018-05-28, 15:56

FR (fr) Vinaigrette Salad dressing
RU (ru) винегрет Russian salad with beets and beans
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby h34 » 2018-06-12, 17:19

Forest Enets: би / bi water
(kv-kpv)(kv-koi) би / bi fire
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Vlürch » 2018-06-16, 20:46

h34 wrote:Forest Enets: би / bi water
(kv-kpv)(kv-koi) би / bi fire

Mongolian (mn) би - I
Buryat (bua) би - I
Kalmyk (xal) би - I
Japanese (ja) (bi) - beauty; beautiful (especially in compounds)

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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby h34 » 2018-06-19, 19:37

(kv-kpv) ме / me = I (1st person sg)
(mhr) ме / me = we (1st person pl)

(kv-kpv) тэ / tė = you (2nd person sg)
(mhr) те / te = you (2nd person pl)

(tr) dağlar = mountains
(sv) dalar = valleys

(bg) ветер / veter = wind
(fy) wetter = water
(de) Wetter = weather
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Vlürch » 2018-06-19, 23:36

Mandarin (zh) 裸體 (luǒtǐ) - naked body
Finnish (fi) luoti - bullet

Japanese (ja) ちんちん (chinchin) - penis
Mandarin (zh) 親親 (qīnqīn) - darling; to kiss

EDIT:

Portuguese (pt) cágado - tortoise
Spanish (es) cagado - cowardly; shitty

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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby h34 » 2018-06-24, 14:46

(mhr) ик / ik = 1 (one)
(nl) ik = I (1st person sg)

(lv) aita = sheep
(fi) aita = fence

(es) bailes = dances
(lv) bailes = fear

(es) vista = view
(lv) vista = chicken

(sv) dotter = daughter
(de) Dotter = yolk
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Surgeon » 2018-06-27, 10:34

(pl) bezcenny - priceless
(cs) bezcenný - worthless

This English word priceless is often misunderstood by Czech speakers as worthless.

And careless is sometimes understood as carefree. So totally opposite meanings...

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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby h34 » 2018-06-28, 18:12

(kv-kpv) кань / kan' = cat
(gl) can = dog

(da) tres = sixty
(es) tres = three

(tres < tresindstyve < tre sinde tyve = three times twenty)

(fi) alus = ship, vessel
(lv) alus = beer

(fi) vasara = hammer
(lv) vasara = summer
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby Salajane » 2018-06-30, 22:58

h34 wrote:(fi) alus = ship, vessel
(lv) alus = beer

(et) alus = basis
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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-07-08, 14:21

Salajane wrote:
h34 wrote:(fi) alus = ship, vessel
(lv) alus = beer

(et) alus = basis

Balinese (ban) alus - fine, soft, small, cultured, refined, elegant, graceful; highest register in Balinese

Also, my Swedish co-worker jokes that the Dutch are playing a practical joke on the Danes:

Dutch (nl) dank je wel, dankjewel - thank you very much
Swedish (sv) danskjävel - fucking Dane

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Re: Multilingual false friends 2

Postby ceid donn » 2018-07-24, 13:02

This is a relatively new one for English, not sure if it's been mentioned here yet, but I was reminded of it today by this article:

(fr) femme - woman
(eng-us) femme - a person who embraces, often in a very overt manner, and presents a gender expression traditionally seen as feminine but who is of any gender. Not a pejorative. While currently it is used by femmes of different genders, some people in the LGBTQIA+ community have not embraced this expanded meaning.


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