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Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-05-30, 12:08
by vijayjohn
OldBoring wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Don't Qingtianese and Wenzhounese have fewer speakers than Italian? :P

But I didn't study those languages.

But you studied Italian?

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-05-30, 13:11
by aaakknu
The smallest language I've studied is Crimean Tatar.

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-05-31, 19:09
by Johanna
vijayjohn wrote:
OldBoring wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Don't Qingtianese and Wenzhounese have fewer speakers than Italian? :P

But I didn't study those languages.

But you studied Italian?

Had he lived in Sweden, chances are that he would have studied Swedish as a second language rather than a native one, especially since he wasn't a baby when he left China. I suspect the situation in Italy may be similar with regards to Italian.

Also, technically I've studied Swedish, it was a subject in school after all, and a lot of it back in lågstadiet and mellanstadiet (age 7-13) was learning new vocabulary and the grammar of the standard language, at least after the first year when everyone had learnt how to read and write all the letters of the alphabet.

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-06-01, 3:19
by vijayjohn
Johanna wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:
OldBoring wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Don't Qingtianese and Wenzhounese have fewer speakers than Italian? :P

But I didn't study those languages.

But you studied Italian?

Had he lived in Sweden, chances are that he would have studied Swedish as a second language rather than a native one, especially since he wasn't a baby when he left China. I suspect the situation in Italy may be similar with regards to Italian.

Huh, I thought he claimed Italian to be one of his native languages even on his profile, but I just went back and checked and not quite.

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-06-11, 1:47
by Ser
vijayjohn wrote:Out of the living languages you're learning right now or have been learning lately, which one(s?) has the smallest number of native (or total) speakers?
German.
What about out of all the living languages you've ever studied, have dabbled in, know one or two words of, etc.?
Salvadoran Pipil Nahuat(l).

Here's a rare recording of a song in that language, made and sung by a native speaker!

http://tushik.org/achtu-at-por-paula-lopez/

It's a song dedicated to her deceased mother, where the singer tells her mother that nature (the trees, the wind flowing through her hair, the dew, the moon's light) accompanies them, and so they don't need anything.

    ♪ Tay timunekit? ♫
    tay ti-mu-neki-t
    what 1PL-REFL-need-PL
    'What do we need?'

    ♪ Tes' tatka timunekit. ♫
    tesu tatka ti-mu-ne-kit
    not something 1PL-REFL-need-PL
    'We don't need anything.'
I sometimes sing the song to myself... I must say I don't really get how she pronounces /ts/ and /tʃ/ though, the song is too short to tell. /tʃ/ seems to be [ʃ] in achtu 'first' (which she also pronounces with a [k] at the end), and /ts/ seems to be [tʃ] in mutzunkal 'your hair'. But then /tʃ/ is indeed [tʃ] in both instances of ajwich 'dew', and /ts/ is [ts] in muatzelwi 'it falls' (? my guess of its meaning from the context--muatzelwia is not found in the largest dictionary!) and metzti 'moon'.
Have you ever studied any extinct languages? Which one(s)?

Latin and Classical Chinese. Sometimes I remember to study Ancient Greek too. Haven't had an interest in studying Classical Arabic in a while now.
eskandar wrote:Does classical Arabic count? I've studied it fairly deeply, though it's probably the largest and most-used classical language on the planet, so it's not exactly rare.

This reminds me of some guy from the ZBB, living in Egypt, who used to say that he liked "reading Classical Arabic all the time, for example, on the back of candy bar wrappers".

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-06-11, 12:18
by vijayjohn
Serafín wrote:Salvadoran Pipil Nahuat(l).

Here's a rare recording of a song in that language, made and sung by a native speaker!

And here's another song in it. :)

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-06-11, 19:35
by Luís
Probably Mirandese (around 10,000 speakers).

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-11-12, 18:39
by Karavinka
Manchu and Ainu. Probably Ainu. I mentally classify Manchu to the dead literary language category. Ainu, just indigenous and moribund.

Among the extinct languages, it will have to be Gothic, with the smallest corpus among all.

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-12-22, 6:56
by vijayjohn
Irusia wrote:The smallest language I've studied is Crimean Tatar.

But not anymore, right? :D

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-12-22, 15:05
by księżycowy
I think I have a new contender for smallest language I've studied a bit of: Coeur D'Alene. It has (as of 2014) two native speakers left.

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-12-22, 17:14
by aaakknu
vijayjohn wrote:
Irusia wrote:The smallest language I've studied is Crimean Tatar.

But not anymore, right? :D

No. I studied it two years ago, when there was a course of Crimean Tatar in my city, but then the course ended and I stopped learning the language after that.

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-12-22, 18:11
by vijayjohn
Irusia wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:
Irusia wrote:The smallest language I've studied is Crimean Tatar.

But not anymore, right? :D

No. I studied it two years ago, when there was a course of Crimean Tatar in my city, but then the course ended and I stopped learning the language after that.

I meant that now you've been studying even smaller languages, right? :) Or at least Kalaallisut.

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-12-23, 4:52
by Linguaphile
Livonian (no fluent native speakers)
Votic (68)
Ingrian (120)
Veps (1,640)
Muskogee (5,070)
Chalcatongo Mixtec (6,000)
Võro (87,000)
Hmong Njua (310,000)
Iu Mien (818,700)
Aymara (998,000)

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2017-12-24, 5:50
by vijayjohn
Wow, those are some pretty interesting languages! Thanks for sharing, Linguaphile!

Re: The smallest language you've ever studied

Posted: 2020-01-11, 4:40
by Clearlanguage
Papiamentu (341,300 speakers) because it's down right cute.