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Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Johanna » 2016-06-26, 17:10

Johanna wrote:Like the title says, if you've got a bad case of wanderlusting for a language or ten and therefore in need of support, this is the place :)

If you want to continue a conversation or give advice on something in the old thread, post a quote and/or a link to the relevant post from there here.

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Continuation of Wanderlust support group 3. The old thread can now be found in Forum Archives.
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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Saim » 2016-06-26, 20:35

Levike wrote:Neeee! Ne hagyd el a magyart! Tudom, hogy nekünk nincs ez a balkáni nyelvi dolog, de úgyis. :yep:


Ne aggódj, nem hagyom el. :) Mostantól szeptemberig csak két dolgom van:

1. magyarul megtanulni a B2 szintre
2. a szakdolgozatomat írni

Tulajdonképpen elhagytam a baszkot és a hébert, nem a magyart. A nyár után több héberül (és arabul) fogok tanulni, de sajnos nem tudom mikor megtalálok időt a baszk tanulásra.

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby mōdgethanc » 2016-06-27, 4:35

Years back, I made a post joking that Hungarian is just a bunch of "hogy vegy", and I stand by that now.

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-06-27, 5:38

That's almost exactly how you say "how are you" in Hungarian. :lol:

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Saim » 2016-06-27, 7:28

mōdgethanc wrote:"hogy vegy"


vijayjohn wrote:That's almost exactly how you say "how are you" in Hungarian. :lol:


Jól vegyok, és te?

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-06-27, 7:48

Én is jól vegyok, köszönöm. Jól beszélsz megyerul! :silly:

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Levike » 2016-06-27, 10:38

Saim wrote:1. magyarul megtanulni a B2 szintre

De most hol vagy? Letettél valami vizsgát? Majd lesz időd, hogy fejlesszed. :wink:

De sajnos nem tudom mikor megtalálok időt a baszk tanulásra.

Ha már tanultál egyszer baszkul, amúgy szerinted melyik lenne nehezebb valakinek megtanulni, aki csakis angolul vagy spanyolul tud, a magyar vagy a baszk? Nem tudok túl sokat maga a nyelvről, de hallottam, hogy érdekesebb a nyelvtana.

PS: Jó, hogy tetszik Mogytáncnak a gy-gy-gy. :whistle:
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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby OldBoring » 2016-06-27, 19:14

Szia, hogy vagy, magyar, Budapest, út, gulash, paprika, Liszt Franz, kurva.

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Levike » 2016-06-27, 19:29

OldBoring wrote:Szia, hogy vagy, magyar, Budapest, út, gulyás, paprika, Liszt Ferenc, kurva.

Júj! Több nem is kell. 8-)
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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-06-27, 19:36

OldBoring, how do you know út? :shock:

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Saim » 2016-06-27, 20:54

vijayjohn wrote:Én is jól vegyok, köszönöm. Jól beszélsz megyerul! :silly:


We should make a constructed language called Megyer. It could be the new international lingua franca.

I say we base the syntax on Malayalam.

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-06-27, 21:02

Saim wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Én is jól vegyok, köszönöm. Jól beszélsz megyerul! :silly:


We should make a constructed language called Megyer. It could be the new international lingua franca.

I say we base the syntax on Malayalam.

So Hungarian words with Malayalam syntax, but where /ɒ/ (or whatever) merges with /ɛ/? :P

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Saim » 2016-06-27, 21:12

Levike wrote:De most hol vagy? Letettél valami vizsgát? Majd lesz időd, hogy fejlesszed. :wink:


Poznańban vagyok, de szerdán már kimegyek. Letettem az utolsó vizsgát pénteken. Barcelonába visszamegyek a diplomaosztóra. :)

Ha már tanultál egyszer baszkul, amúgy szerinted melyik lenne nehezebb valakinek megtanulni, aki csakis angolul vagy spanyolul tud, a magyar vagy a baszk? Nem tudok túl sokat maga a nyelvről, de hallottam, hogy érdekesebb a nyelvtana.

PS: Jó, hogy tetszik Mogytáncnak a gy-gy-gy. :whistle:


Nekem a baszk volt nehezebb, de már beszéltem folyékonyan szerbül és nagyon jól lengyelül, amikor magyarul kezdtem tanulni, azért talán nem tudom összehasonlítani. A baszk nyelvben nagyon sok román jövevényszó van: annak ellenére, hogy furcsa szintaxisa van, talán a közös szavak miatt könnyebb volna egy spanyolnak, mint a magyar.

A magyar szintaxisa könnyebb, mert így a baszk mondatok:

Magyar szintaxis-a könnyebb-a van, baszk mondat-a-ok így vannak mert

vijayjohn wrote:So Hungarian words with Malayalam syntax, but where /ɒ/ (or whatever) merges with /ɛ/? :P


I'm actually curious to see what this would look like.

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Levike » 2016-06-27, 21:22

A baszk nyelvben nagyon sok román jövevényszó van

Újdonság, nem tudtam, hogy a baszkok voltak látogatóban itt Kelet Európában. :mrgreen:

Kis dolog: román = Romanian, római = Roman
Saim wrote:Magyar szintaxis-a könnyeb-a van, baszk mondat-a-ok így vannak mert

:shock: *dob egy követ a baszk felé*

És gratulálok a vizsgákért.

BEJELENTÉS: Úgy néz ki, hogy a magyar lett Unilang új katalánja. :mrgreen:

ANNOUNCEMENT: It seems Hungarian is Unilang's new Catalan. :mrgreen:
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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-06-27, 22:37

Saim wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:So Hungarian words with Malayalam syntax, but where /ɒ/ (or whatever) merges with /ɛ/? :P


I'm actually curious to see what this would look like.

I was just thinking about this. Well, for one thing, 'how are you' wouldn't be "hogy vegy" although "hogy ven" and "hogy él" or something would both be possible options. :lol:

I imagine it would look something like this (I tried to calque off of Malayalam :P):

Mostenáben én epenenek nepló fordítás tettelél. Én most írtálülő e részben jepánszemélyek epene elő ez Endemen szigetek vettezért egyis vásárolni kepélnem. Elsőn fényolej készít.
I've been translating my grandfather's diary lately. In the part I'm writing (out) now, since the Japanese took (over) the Andaman Islands where my grandfather is, they can't get anything to buy. He's making coconut oil for the first time.

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Levike » 2016-06-27, 23:04

vijayjohn wrote:Imagine it would look something like this

Hmm, how about we deal with vowels the old Finnish way, so it would be Uralic+Malayalam:

Mostenaaben een epenenek neploo fordiitaas tetteleel. Een most iirtaalülöö e reeszben jepaanszemeelyek epene elöö ez Endemen szigetek vettezeert egyis vaasaarolni kepeelnem. Elsöön feenyolej keesziit.

Much better.
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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Yasna » 2016-06-27, 23:12

Hungarian... Jeez, I wonder why.
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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby Michael » 2016-06-28, 0:09

n8an wrote:Really? I found it a bit harder than a Romance language, which shocked me because a) I've grown up around Greek, and b) people always told me it was easy. Maybe I just had bad resources. Actually, I definitely had bad resources. What did you use?

I introduced myself to Greek with Conversational Greek in 7 Days, but used Learn Greek without a Teacher to get to a decent B1 level. The Cortina Method book Conversational Modern Greek in 20 Lessons is also good, but contains a few items of vocabulary and elements of style that have fallen into disuse or become [more] stilted since 1976.

Levike wrote:ANNOUNCEMENT: It seems Hungarian is Unilang's new Catalan Finnish. :mrgreen:

(Not that I have a problem with it; I've been interested in all three languages before.) 8-)
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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby mōdgethanc » 2016-06-28, 3:52

Levike wrote:PS: Jó, hogy tetszik Mogytáncnak a gy-gy-gy. :whistle:
This guy knows what's up.
ANNOUNCEMENT: It seems Hungarian is Unilang's new Catalan. :mrgreen:
I'll take it!

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Re: Wanderlust support group 4

Postby OldBoring » 2016-06-28, 19:10

vijayjohn wrote:OldBoring, how do you know út? :shock:


When my middle school planned a trip to Budapest (which I didn't go... and I'm still angry after 13 years), we did some research about the city and I noticed every address was something-út. Also once Levike nominated a song named 67-es Út in the FSC, and when I looked for the translated lyrics, I remembered that út means road.

Levike wrote:gulyás

Our middle school teacher also warned us that the dish called goulash elsewhere in Europe is called differently in Hungarian, but she forgot how. So I imagined a completely different word...
I wonder how <ly> became <l> elsewhere in Europe. And while gulasch is a German spelling, where does goulash come from?
Liszt Ferenc

Damn Austrians! I know him as Franz Liszt...
Júj! Több nem is kell. 8-)

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Michael wrote:
Levike wrote:ANNOUNCEMENT: It seems Hungarian is Unilang's new Catalan Finnish. :mrgreen:

(Not that I have a problem with it; I've been interested in all three languages before.) 8-)

Well... always Ugro-Finnic or Finno-Ugric (I always forget which word is used). Next will be Estonian?
But nah... Estonia doesn't exist.


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