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Re: Please identify the language

Postby OldBoring » 2017-06-29, 9:22

Dr. House wrote:I'm just wondering why the GT transliteration for Thai looks like shit crap khrab

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Moraczewski » 2017-07-03, 7:37

This language sounds like some germanic one, but I can't really tell which.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1gzxlsmmld9

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby IpseDixit » 2017-07-03, 11:22

Moraczewski wrote:This language sounds like some germanic one, but I can't really tell which.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1gzxlsmmld9


At first, I actually thought it was some Indo-Iranic language, but after listening to it for a second time, it does sound somewhat Germanic too. If we assume it's a Germanic language, I'd be tempted to say Afrikaans, but I'm not sure in the slightest.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby kevin » 2017-07-03, 12:18

I have no idea about Afrikaans, so that might be an option, but otherwise I would have said Dutch. I didn't understand much, but then the quality isn't that good either, and at least towards the end it sounded really Dutch to me. That they seem to mention Amsterdam might be another hint in that direction, I guess.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby linguoboy » 2017-07-03, 14:52

Dr. House wrote:So Thai script has many letters for the same sound and some are archaic, right?

I would say "etymological" rather than "archaic".

Kind of like how English orthography reproduces foreign words with diacritics but uses assimilated pronunciations anyway.
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Car » 2017-07-03, 19:57

kevin wrote:I have no idea about Afrikaans, so that might be an option, but otherwise I would have said Dutch. I didn't understand much, but then the quality isn't that good either, and at least towards the end it sounded really Dutch to me. That they seem to mention Amsterdam might be another hint in that direction, I guess.

It sounded Dutch to me and I'm fairly certain to have recognised bits and pieces of Dutch here and there, but others on here surely know better.
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Aurinĭa » 2017-07-03, 21:01

I recognise some Dutch words and parts of sentences (e.g. douche, shower; bezoek, visit; echt waar, really true; Amsterdam; kon niet slapen, godverdomme, couldn't sleep, [for fuck's sake]; the name "Ronnie"), but because of the bad quality, I couldn't understand all that much. I feel like I understood enough to say that it's Dutch from the Netherlands, though.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby mōdgethanc » 2017-07-03, 22:08

I was under the impression the Lao alphabet was just the Thai alphabet without the redundant letters. I imajin that ritten Lao looks somwat like this to Tai spekers then.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby księżycowy » 2017-07-03, 22:15

The shapes are similar, but they are completely different scripts.
That is an interesting question too, by the way. How easy is it for Thais to read Lao and vice versa.

I've always like the Lao script better. It's smoother looking to me.
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby mōdgethanc » 2017-07-03, 22:21

księżycowy wrote:The shapes are similar, but they are completely different scripts.
That is an interesting question too, by the way. How easy is it for Thais to read Lao and vice versa.

I've always like the Lao script better. It's smoother looking to me.
So it's more like Latin vs. Cyrillic then?

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby księżycowy » 2017-07-03, 22:44

I suppose that's not a bad analogy.
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-07-04, 4:17

Personally, I feel it's almost like learning print versus cursive. If you can read print, that doesn't mean you can read cursive. If you can read only cursive, that doesn't mean you can read print.
księżycowy wrote:That is an interesting question too, by the way. How easy is it for Thais to read Lao and vice versa.

I can read both printed Thai and printed Khmer, but I've always had a bit of a hard time reading both Lao and certain styles of Thai (and Khmer?) writing. For example, in this Thai ad, the only part where I'm sure I can make out the letters is the block of five lines in the middle (to the left of the woman and just above the box):
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby mōdgethanc » 2017-07-04, 4:47

1) I wish Thai used more spacing between letters

2) Cursive is godawful shit and I can still barely read it today and I hope it dies a horrible death

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-07-04, 4:54

doyouwishithadmorespacingbetweenletters orbetweenwords andmaybemorepunctuationmarks right :silly:

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Moraczewski » 2017-07-04, 6:06

Aurinĭa wrote:I recognise some Dutch words and parts of sentences (e.g. douche, shower; bezoek, visit; echt waar, really true; Amsterdam; kon niet slapen, godverdomme, couldn't sleep, [for fuck's sake]; the name "Ronnie"), but because of the bad quality, I couldn't understand all that much. I feel like I understood enough to say that it's Dutch from the Netherlands, though.

Thanks! I just got confirmation from a Dutch friend. He said he couldn't understand it all but not so much because of the sound quality, but because of dialectal differencies. For everyone interested, here is rough transcript:

- Sjongejongejonge
- Echt waar Ronnie
- Vanaf half zeven uit bed, hè...
- Knap, ik ben er een halfuur uit
- [...] ga ik er ook liever uit, maar ja...
- Ahhh ik was helemaal kapot, man
- Zaterdag uhh ben ik stappen daar, ja Amsterdam in west, met z'n tweeën [...], word ik 's morgens wakker om een uur rond half zes pas terug, kon ik ook nog niet slapen godverdomme, bah ik was helemaal kapot
- Ja dan merk je toch dat je ouder wordt, vriend,
- Ohh ik was gisteren nog zo helemaal gesloopt
- Ja Rikkie zei, ja ik weet ook niet meer wat ik er mee aan moet
- Ja bejaardencentrum zat ik zo aan te denken
- Ja dat snap ik wel, en dan twee keer per week bezoek
- Ja zoiets [giggling]
- Ja dan vergeet 'ie toch [...]
- Komt niet goed dat ze twee keer per week op bezoek komen
- Nee allemaal verpleegsters
- [...] Ja maar Ronnie [...] Ik spring even onder de douche [...]
- Ja, veel plezier samen hè
- Later, joe joe

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby mōdgethanc » 2017-07-04, 9:16

vijayjohn wrote:doyouwishithadmorespacingbetweenletters orbetweenwords andmaybemorepunctuationmarks right :silly:
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby OldBoring » 2017-07-04, 22:12

Printed is what the word says: it should be used only for printing.
You're supposed to use cursive when handwriting.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-07-04, 23:37

OldBoring wrote:Printed is what the word says: it should be used only for printing.
You're supposed to use cursive when handwriting.

It's supposed to be that way, but it's not really used in practice that way.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby mōdgethanc » 2017-07-05, 6:07

I don't give a shit what I'm supposed to use. When I handwrite, I print, because it's easy to read and doesn't look like shit, which cursive does. Older people use cursive and clutch their pearls that millennials don't use it as much, but that's because we don't need to.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-07-05, 6:09

mōdgethanc wrote:Older people use cursive and clutch their pearls that millennials don't use it as much, but that's because we don't need to.

Also honestly, it can look especially shitty when we do try to write in cursive.


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