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Re: Please identify the language

Postby languagepotato » 2018-12-13, 18:35

My family and i can't figure out what language this song is in. my brother thinks it's Somali. I, think it's an afro-asiatic language too (mainly due to the voiced pharyngeal fricative i hear in the uncut version), but i can't place it, to me it sounds like Arabic gibberish.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Vlürch » 2018-12-17, 5:35

languagepotato wrote:My family and i can't figure out what language this song is in. my brother thinks it's Somali. I, think it's an afro-asiatic language too (mainly due to the voiced pharyngeal fricative i hear in the uncut version), but i can't place it, to me it sounds like Arabic gibberish.

Could it just be some variety of Arabic, or some Arabic-based creole like Juba Arabic or something? Just the fact that there's [æl] all over the place makes me think that, but of course I'm probably wrong since I don't actually speak Arabic and you do, so if you don't think it could be any kind of Arabic...

...but could the word that repeats a lot be جعل or something? I mean, the fourth [d͡ʒæʔæl] or whatever especially sounds more like [d͡ʒæʔˤæl~d͡ʒæʡ͡ʕæl] to my ears even if the first three times it sounds like it just has a glottal stop, not sure about the fifth and sixth. According to Wikipedia, the ayin in Hebrew and Aramaic can be pronounced [ʔˤ], but it doesn't sound like Hebrew and I'm not sure if it's possible that you wouldn't recognise and understand Aramaic if it was that...?

I found this video that's apparently in Juba Arabic, not sure if it sounds the same as the song though since the clip you posted is so short and repetitive. Obviously, since I'm not even able to tell apart different Arabic varieties/dialects, I couldn't really figure it out anyway. I think it sounds more "African" than Arabic usually does, but maybe I'm only imagining that and I'll get called racist again... :para:

Well, whatever it is, it's a real earworm. I'm sure I'll have it stuck in my head for the rest of the day.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-12-18, 6:22

It's Somali. It's this Somali song called "Jaceyl u Kac" by Mursal Faladagan (AFAICT "jaceyl u kac" means 'rise to love'):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAIUkNeb30w
Jaceyl is pronounced something like [d͡ʒəˈʕejl] and means 'love' in Somali.
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Do you know what is this language and what does it mean?

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Like Multiturquoise said, it's Arabic, but it doesn't make any sense at least without further context. My best attempt to translate it into English is: "...available on the wall. There are bottles in it and through it, you ladies can see from your pain whether he has my refrigerator." :?:
Saim wrote:I can't make head or tails of this. The person who asked thinks it's Arabic, but I'm honestly not sure. My best guess is d-m-r-w-sh-n but I could be wrong.

I see something like دراڨنا with the qaf written like in Tunisia. دراقنا in MSA I guess would mean 'our peach', but drague in French means something else entirely, so maybe it has something to do with that? Idk. :P

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Re: Please identify the language

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-03-18, 19:24

With all due respect, why are your recordings so distorted? They often sound like they have more than one signal on top of each other. I guess I could see the first two being at least partly in Greek (and also partly in Russian! But maybe that's just me). I think the third one and maybe also the fourth one is in Finnish. The fifth one sounds to me like a Slavic language. I'm tempted to say it's in Serbian, but that's mostly because as I was listening to it, I was thinking of another older recording that I know was in Serbian. :P The sixth one...I have no idea, my best guess is maybe Portuguese??? The seventh and eighth ones may well be at least partly in Greek, but I hear talking in the background in Russian in the seventh one.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Moraczewski » 2019-03-18, 20:24

vijayjohn wrote:With all due respect, why are your recordings so distorted?

Yeah, sorry for that. That's what shortwave listening hobby is - to detect various weak signals on air. The distortion is typical for shortwave amateur radio, this is due to the type of modulation. Talks on the background might be me with my friends discussing what we hear. I really appreciate your help, thank you.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Naava » 2019-03-18, 21:03

vijayjohn wrote:I think the third one and maybe also the fourth one is in Finnish.

The third one is Finnish, but I have no idea what the fourth one is. It's almost like several languages spoken at the same time. It could be Estonian, but I could swear I heard lauantai and something about Pentti and Tampere (in Tampere accent) in there... :hmm:

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby md0 » 2019-03-19, 5:42

Moraczewski wrote:Hello! I return with more shortwave recordings. I guess that some of these might be Greek because that's the language that I still don't often detect.

1. https://vocaroo.com/i/s1PLYkpV03ua
2. https://vocaroo.com/i/s1LPBwmKYjUK
3. https://vocaroo.com/i/s1KkvDcAQSVz
4. https://vocaroo.com/i/s1BsRBb5YvOF
5. https://vocaroo.com/i/s1q81dY1BT19
6. https://vocaroo.com/i/s0cg5A8Rn6Ry
7. https://vocaroo.com/i/s1pbJPonONtm
8. https://vocaroo.com/i/s0cxdwiJQtns


1. Greek
2. Greek, but either non-fluent or an extremely northern Greece dialect
7. Greek, but at the end it must be a different station interfering
8. Greek, likely ham-radio amateurs because they seem to discuss broadcast setups and receptions from Kosovo and Bulgaria

1 and 7 must be Voice of Greece/ERT. The other two are probably amateurs, which is interesting because I thought they only did pirate broadcasts on MW, not on SW.
Voice of Armenia has a small news bulletin in Greek, but I don't think 2 is that.

I used to be a SWListener too, until I moved inland and the geography ruined it for me.
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