Words that just won't stick

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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby Ciarán12 » 2018-03-11, 15:55

Cool, maybe I'll remember it now!

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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-03-11, 15:56

Yay, I was hoping that might help! :)

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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby Car » 2018-03-11, 19:59

Or maybe you should write it on a wall to remember it. :P
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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-03-11, 20:56

Or you should write it on a wall illegally in Brazil. You'd never forget it then!

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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby Ciarán12 » 2018-03-11, 22:36

I think that might be going a little to far just to remember the word, but I have no doubt it would work :P

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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby atalarikt » 2018-03-14, 0:56

Car wrote:Or maybe you should write it on a wall to remember it. :P

I remember writing el espejo (the mirror) on the wall nearby a mirror in my bedroom back in 2014, when I started using Duolingo to learn Spanish. The writing itself is still there. :lol:
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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby Ciarán12 » 2018-09-22, 9:30

(pt-br) surto - outbreak, surge, erruption.

The semantics of the word don't overlap well with any one term in English, which is part of why I keep forgetting it. Also, my mind immediately associated it with the word sorte - luck, which has nothing to do with surto but I always remember that association first... :/

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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby voron » 2018-09-22, 9:56

(ku)
civak - society
civîn - meeting, convention

They keep popping up in my Memrise reviews and I get them wrong all the time.
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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby Osias » 2018-09-23, 0:43

Ciarán12 wrote:(pt-br) surto - outbreak, surge, erruption.

The semantics of the word don't overlap well with any one term in English, which is part of why I keep forgetting it. Also, my mind immediately associated it with the word sorte - luck, which has nothing to do with surto but I always remember that association first... :/


1 Aprenda a musica da banda "O Surto", é aquele sucesso "que me pirou o cabeção". A palavra é bastante usada como "surto de loucura"

2 Quem criou essa palavra eu acho que era um cara meio surtado
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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby ceid donn » 2018-09-23, 4:04

(fr) All from my Memrise course as well. If the review offers them as multiple choice I can usually get them, but I can't just straight up recall them despite practicing them for months now. Maybe just posting them here and seeing them in a different context will help.

s'engueuler - to fight, to argue
s'arracher qqch - to fight over something
un pèlerinage - a pilgrimage

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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby linguoboy » 2018-09-24, 17:05

I "know" all of these Welsh verbs, yet for some reason I still often confuse them in context or forget some of their meanings. (Dal in particular has a range which doesn't map well to any English verb.) Note that in the narrative tense, most of these lose their final ending and add -odd in the 3s, so they're even more similar than they appear in verb-noun form.

codi rise, raise, lift, stand up
dodi put, place
dechrau start, begin
deffro wake (up)
dal catch, hold, keep, continue [forms progressive]
digwydd happen, occur
disgyn fall, go down, dismount, disembark
ei heglu hi hoof it, kick the bucket
rheged run
rhegi curse
rhwyfo row
rhwydo net, ensnare
rhwyddau free, liberate
syllu gaze, stare
sylwi notice, note, observe
sylweddoli realise

And then there's this frustrating trio:
rhydd free
rhyfedd odd
pridd soil
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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby Osias » 2018-09-25, 0:40

(de)etwas
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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby linguoboy » 2018-09-28, 17:28

(cy) gwasgu press
(cy) gwthio push
(cy) llethu crush
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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby Vlürch » 2018-10-22, 16:40

Well, very few words actually stick in my head, but these are some of the most frustrating ones:

Japanese (ja) 求める (motomeru) - to find; search for; want; demand
I've literally never even once remembered what it means correctly, so for me this is almost certainly the best example of a word that won't stick. There have been times when I've thought it meant everything from "help" to "punish", but not even once have I actually thought it means what it really means. I lock up completely and my brain stops registering whatever comes after whenever I encounter it, as if I was faced with some complex mathematical formula... :oops: Well, thankfully I'll probably never have to use Japanese in real life and am still at a newborn's level even after over a decade of trying to learn it...

Turkish (tr) rüya - dream
Turkish (tr) rüzgâr - wind
I don't think I could ever forget that the latter means "wind", but at least half of the time when I see the former, I think it means that as well. The reason it's so frustrating is that even though both are Persian loanwords, this same mix-up hasn't happened to me in Persian even once... and there's the Azerbaijani singer Röya; I could never forget that her name means "dream", so... I have absolutely no idea how I manage to keep mixing them up in Turkish.

English (en) magnolia
Although I always remember that it's a plant, I always forget what kind of a plant it is... the similarity to Mongolia doesn't help.

Russian (ru) даже - even
Russian (ru) тоже - also
No idea how I could ever memorise which is which. I just want to use даже everywhere, but obviously that's not going to work...

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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby linguoboy » 2018-10-22, 16:46

(fr) dingue
(fr) tantôt looks like it should mean "as soon as" but, no, it's "sometimes", "earlier", or "later"(!)
(fr) pourtant however
(fr) partout everywhere
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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-10-22, 17:00

Vlürch wrote:Russian (ru) даже - even
Russian (ru) тоже - also
No idea how I could ever memorise which is which. I just want to use даже everywhere, but obviously that's not going to work...

Тоже begins with the same two letters as too in English. (I think that might have helped me remember it).

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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby voron » 2018-10-22, 17:20

Vlürch wrote:Turkish (tr) rüya - dream
Turkish (tr) rüzgâr - wind
I don't think I could ever forget that the latter means "wind", but at least half of the time when I see the former, I think it means that as well. The reason it's so frustrating is that even though both are Persian loanwords, this same mix-up hasn't happened to me in Persian even once...

Rüya is actually originally Arabic, and comes from the same root as رَأَى 'to see'. It's the first word of one of the often recited surahs in Quran:
http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp? ... 07&verse=1

And rüzgar appears here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UsRJJ_ehqU&t=1m35s :)

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Re: Words that just won't stick

Postby Vlürch » 2018-10-23, 5:29

vijayjohn wrote:Тоже begins with the same two letters as too in English. (I think that might have helped me remember it).

That could definitely be helpful, if I manage to remember that! Thanks.
voron wrote:Rüya is actually originally Arabic

Ohhh, welp. Goes to show once again that assuming etymologies is never a good idea. :P It probably entered Turkish through Persian, though, right? Not saying that makes it a loanword from Persian per se, but...
voron wrote:and comes from the same root as رَأَى 'to see'.

Interesting. Arabic roots are so cool.


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