vijayjohn wrote:Basically IIRC, me, him, etc. are the default forms of those pronouns in English anyway whereas I, he, etc. occur only with (usually before) finite verbs/auxiliaries for probably most English-speakers.
Thanks! I wish English pronouns were taught this way.
Instead, all English courses make them look like pronouns in Romance languages and say that I
etc. are subject, while me
, etc. are object.
linguoboy wrote:But who says that "me" is exclusively an object form?
Like I said, all English courses. So based on that, we learners (or us learners?) say "I and you". Or "She and we".
This reminds me that only recently I found out lui, lei, loro
as subjects are accepted by grammars. When I studied grammar in primary school, only egli, ella, essi
were considered correct as subjects.
And then I found that courses of Italian as L2 don't teach the latter group at all!
Same thing for plural clitic "gli".
"Essi sono i miei genitori. Voglio loro tanto bene." sounds so clumsy.
But I can imagine myself writing this kind of sentence in school essays, or if I were to write a novel; and I probably said it during oral exams at school when in Italy.