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Re: Linguistics thread

Postby dEhiN » 2018-12-18, 5:08

vijayjohn wrote:
Vlürch wrote:That makes me wonder: do people still say stuff like "that's cool... not!", or is that no longer a thing?

Well, Borat did that. :lol:

Not sure how good a measuring stick Borat is to use. :P
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Re: Linguistics thread

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-12-18, 6:29

dEhiN wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:
Vlürch wrote:That makes me wonder: do people still say stuff like "that's cool... not!", or is that no longer a thing?

Well, Borat did that. :lol:

Not sure how good a measuring stick Borat is to use. :P

Well, he's a person! Albeit a fictional one represented by an actor. :whistle:

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Re: Linguistics thread

Postby linguoboy » 2018-12-18, 18:30

dEhiN wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:
Vlürch wrote:That makes me wonder: do people still say stuff like "that's cool... not!", or is that no longer a thing?

Well, Borat did that. :lol:

Not sure how good a measuring stick Borat is to use. :P

Seems to me if you're trying to measure what's currently uncool, he's perfectly suited.
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Re: Linguistics thread

Postby Ser » 2018-12-18, 18:42

The last time I heard or saw the ", ...NOT" joke was around 2012, from a girl in her early 20s who genuinely found it amusing. It's not used much these days really.

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Re: Linguistics thread

Postby Car » 2019-01-10, 13:24

I came across this article in NZZ today.

It's about the question whether languages that use the present tense to express the future are more future-oriented.
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Re: Linguistics thread

Postby linguoboy » 2019-01-10, 15:12

Car wrote:It's about the question whether languages that use the present tense to express the future are more future-oriented.

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Re: Linguistics thread

Postby mōdgethanc » 2019-01-10, 15:49

LANGUAGE = THOUGHT
I TOO HAVE READ NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR
ASIANS THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE SO THEY SAVE MONEY

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Re: Linguistics thread

Postby Saim » 2019-01-10, 16:53

Wouldn't it go the other way if anything? Like, 'we distinguish the future grammatically therefore thinking about the future is more important to us'? Obviously it's all nonsense but that Sapir-Whorfian explanation seems more intuitive to me.

I don't have access to the full study but the abstract seems to suggest that their results came about because the language difference creates two different ethnolinguistic groups with different cultural characteristics. Which is also mentioned at the bottom of the article ("Die Forschung lässt also vermuten, dass [...] die Sprache als Chiffre für Kultur einen starken Einfluss hat.").

Wenn man sprachlich die Zukunft in die Gegenwart hole, erleichtere dies zukunftsorientiertes Verhalten, sagt der Ökonom Keith Chen von der Universität Kalifornien in Los Angeles.


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Re: Linguistics thread

Postby linguoboy » 2019-01-10, 17:35

Yeah, his original study came out about five years ago and was roundly debunked by professional linguists. Here's a Language Log takedown from before it was even published: http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3756.
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