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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-01-12, 7:26

American English (en-US) potty
Tamil (ta) போட்டி [ˈpoːʈi] - competition

Pissing contest! :P

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Re: True false friends

Postby OldBoring » 2019-01-12, 14:35

Homine.Sardu wrote:(en) ingenuity (in Italian "ingegnosità, ingegno")
(it) ingenuità (in English "naivety, innocence")

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

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Re: True false friends

Postby OldBoring » 2019-01-12, 14:38

vijayjohn wrote:American English (en-US) potty
Tamil (ta) போட்டி [ˈpoːʈi] - competition

Pissing contest! :P

Potty potty!
Pissing dans la piscine!

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Re: True false friends

Postby Ciarán12 » 2019-01-14, 0:39

OldBoring wrote:
Homine.Sardu wrote:(en) ingenuity (in Italian "ingegnosità, ingegno")
(it) ingenuità (in English "naivety, innocence")

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat


Yeah, PT also: ingênuo - naïve

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Re: True false friends

Postby Linguaphile » 2019-01-14, 1:03

Ciarán12 wrote:
OldBoring wrote:
Homine.Sardu wrote:(en) ingenuity (in Italian "ingegnosità, ingegno")
(it) ingenuità (in English "naivety, innocence")

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat


Yeah, PT also: ingênuo - naïve

(en) ingenuous naive, innocent, unsuspecting ((es) ingenuo)
(en) ingenuity cleverness, inventiveness ((es) ingenio)
(en) ingenious creative, clever, inventive ((es) ingenioso)

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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-01-21, 8:15

OldBoring wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:American English (en-US) potty
Tamil (ta) போட்டி [ˈpoːʈi] - competition

Pissing contest! :P

Potty potty!
Pissing dans la piscine!

Un deux trois quatre cinq dans la piscine pissing in the potty போட்டி

A false friend I fell victim to recently (thanks eskandar for pointing this out even though I should have known better because I included the Persian word in my vocab list!):

Persian (fa) غربت ghorbat - exile, loneliness
Urdu (ur) غربت ghurbat - poverty

Similarly:

Persian (fa) غریب gharib - strange, rare, foreign, alien; stranger
Urdu (ur) غریب gharib - poor

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Re: True false friends

Postby OldBoring » 2019-01-21, 19:04

vijayjohn wrote:Persian (fa) غریب gharib - strange, rare, foreign, alien; stranger
Urdu (ur) غریب gharib - poor

Foreigners are poor! :twisted:

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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-01-21, 22:08

OldBoring wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Persian (fa) غریب gharib - strange, rare, foreign, alien; stranger
Urdu (ur) غریب gharib - poor

Foreigners are poor! :twisted:

Something like that! The idea is that if you're exiled, you can indeed easily end up being poor.

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Re: True false friends

Postby linguoboy » 2019-01-22, 15:12

vijayjohn wrote:
OldBoring wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Persian (fa) غریب gharib - strange, rare, foreign, alien; stranger
Urdu (ur) غریب gharib - poor

Foreigners are poor! :twisted:

Something like that! The idea is that if you're exiled, you can indeed easily end up being poor.

See also English, where wretch originally had the meaning of "exile" or "outcast". (Compare German where the cognate Recke underwent an ameliorisation via the heroic outlaw trope and is now a poetic term for "warrior".)
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Re: True false friends

Postby Saim » 2019-01-22, 17:23

vijayjohn wrote:Persian (fa) غربت ghorbat - exile, loneliness
Urdu (ur) غربت ghurbat - poverty


And in Arabic غربة living overseas, homesickness.

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Re: True false friends

Postby linguoboy » 2019-01-23, 16:15

(sv) deppig gloomy, depressed
(de) deppert stupid

The actual word that tripped me up was depprockare which means something like "gloom rocker" or "goth". It looked like "idiot rocker" and I knew that couldn't be right.
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Re: True false friends

Postby voron » 2019-01-23, 16:22

Saim wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Persian (fa) غربت ghorbat - exile, loneliness
Urdu (ur) غربت ghurbat - poverty


And in Arabic غربة living overseas, homesickness.

Turkish is more or less the same as Arabic:
(tr) gurbet - foreign land; homesickness

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Re: True false friends

Postby linguoboy » 2019-01-23, 16:43

(sv) kardborre burdock
(en) cardboard
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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-01-24, 6:48

voron wrote:
Saim wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Persian (fa) غربت ghorbat - exile, loneliness
Urdu (ur) غربت ghurbat - poverty


And in Arabic غربة living overseas, homesickness.

Turkish is more or less the same as Arabic:
(tr) gurbet - foreign land; homesickness

Wiktionary seems to have a similar definition for the Persian word actually: 'the state or feeling of being a foreigner and/or longing for one's native land'.

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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-01, 2:46

Isfahani Persian (fa)Yazdi Persian (fa) (Isfahani and Yazdi Persian) چوری churi - chick
Dari (fa-AF) چوری churi - bangle (same as چوڑی in Urdu)

Iranian Persian (fa) شرنگ sharang - poison
Dari (fa-AF) شرنگ sharang - jingling (compare Pashto شرنګ shrang 'ring, jingle, chink, chime')

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Re: True false friends

Postby Prowler » 2019-02-03, 21:30

(pt)Reis - Kings
(de)Reis - Rice

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Re: True false friends

Postby Dormouse559 » 2019-02-06, 5:54

(en) No question! - Certainly!
(fr) Pas question! - Certainly not!

Though I recently heard "no question" used with the negative meaning in a costume drama about Queen Victoria, so it'd be neat to learn the negative meaning has been, or even still is, in use.
N'hésite pas à corriger mes erreurs.

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Re: True false friends

Postby linguoboy » 2019-02-06, 16:47

(zh-tw) 畫面 [film] scene, frame; picture, tableau
(ja) 画面 [comp] screen; picture
(ko) 화면/畫面 [comp, TV, film] screen; canvas

(sv) doft scent
(no) duft scent
(is) duft powder
(nl) doft bench for rowers
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Re: True false friends

Postby linguoboy » 2019-02-12, 20:34

(en) bribe
(fr) bribe scrap
(es) briba vagabondage
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Re: True false friends

Postby linguoboy » 2019-02-20, 18:26

(el) μονοπάτι footpath
(ca) monopatí skateboard

(is) skata ray, skate
(sv) skata magpie
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