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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-07-06, 0:05

OldBoring wrote:
Serafín wrote:Oooh, I'd now like to expand on this:
Serafín wrote:English he
Piraha hi 'he, she, it, they'

Shanghainese Wu 伊 [ɦi˩˧] 'he, she'

I really don't know why they use ɦ when transcribing the consonant before i in Wu Chinese.

Because Shanghainese isn't real Wu Chinese, remember? ;)
To me it sounds like more [ji].

So like Mandarin?

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Michael » 2017-07-08, 21:19

Old English (en_old) sēo fōr [the] journey
Portuguese (pt) for first- and third-person singular future subjunctive of ir "to go" and ser "to be"
American English (en-us) Pizzonese (nap) N Italian (it) Mexican Spanish (es-mx) Brazilian Portuguese (pt-br) Albanian (sq) B1 Greek (el) Persian (fa) A2 Romanian (ro) Old English (en_old) Turkish (tr) Azerbaijani (az) A1
„Çdo njeri është peng i veprave të veta.‟
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-07-11, 12:40

I always found this resemblance helpful:

Turkish (tr) ayran - cold yogurt beverage
Mongolian (mn) айраг [ˈai̯rəɡ] - koumiss

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby OldBoring » 2017-07-11, 20:22

it's all milky drinks, duh

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby linguoboy » 2017-07-11, 20:33

(nds) Buuk belly
(ca) buc belly, etc.
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Michael » 2017-07-11, 20:55

linguoboy wrote:[flag=]nds[/flag] Buuk belly
[flag=]ca[/flag] buc belly, etc.

I'm guessing the Catalan analogue is a Visigothic loan?
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„Çdo njeri është peng i veprave të veta.‟
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby linguoboy » 2017-07-11, 21:02

Michael wrote:
linguoboy wrote:[flag=]nds[/flag] Buuk belly
[flag=]ca[/flag] buc belly, etc.

I'm guessing the Catalan analogue is a Visigothic loan?

Old Frankish, actually. Catalonia originated as the Marca Hispanica of the Frankish Empire. Visgothic influence on the language was earlier and not nearly as lasting (since Hispania Citerior was the most thoroughly romanised part of the Peninsula). There was also significant migration from Occitania into Catalonia as late as the 16th century.
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-07-22, 22:54

English (en) actually
Bengali (bn) আসলে [ˈaʃole] - in actuality, in truth, in fact
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby linguoboy » 2017-08-18, 20:16

Wait, sever is cognate with separate?

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby IpseDixit » 2017-09-15, 10:08

(en) to tinge
(it) tingere

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-09-19, 0:20

English (en) lof
Mapudungun (arn) lof

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Michael » 2017-09-28, 21:26

N/A
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-09-29, 6:48

Aren't those more like true false friends? It doesn't seem like English has pollution with that sense anymore.

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Michael » 2017-09-29, 8:56

vijayjohn wrote:Aren't those more like true false friends? It doesn't seem like English has pollution with that sense anymore.

Oops, I clicked on the wrong thread.
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Homine.Sardu » 2017-11-03, 15:23

linguoboy wrote:Wait, sever is cognate with separate?

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compare them with Sardinian :

(sc) seperare (Nuorese) = to choose, to pull apart
(sc) seberare (Logudorese) = to choose, to pull apart

https://www.etymonline.com/word/sever

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-11-08, 23:35

Homine.Sardu wrote:(ro)a agăța - to suspend, hang, hook, catch

this sounds like :

(sc) aggantzare - to suspend, hang, hook, catch
(it) agganciare - to suspend, hang, hook, catch

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby linguoboy » 2017-11-21, 20:39

(hy) նուշ /nuš/ almond
(rm) nusch (wal)nut
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby dEhiN » 2017-11-23, 5:31

linguoboy wrote:(hy) նուշ /nuš/ almond
(rm) nusch (wal)nut

The Wiktionary entry for nusch says that it came from Latin nux. But according to the one for նուշ, the two aren't related:
The origin is unknown. The comparison with Latin nux, Proto-Celtic *knūs, Proto-Germanic *hnuts is rejected because Proto-Indo-European *knew-, reconstructed for these, cannot yield Armenian նուշ (nuš).
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby linguoboy » 2017-11-23, 15:05

dEhiN wrote:
linguoboy wrote:(hy) նուշ /nuš/ almond
(rm) nusch (wal)nut

The Wiktionary entry for nusch says that it came from Latin nux. But according to the one for նուշ, the two aren't related:
The origin is unknown. The comparison with Latin nux, Proto-Celtic *knūs, Proto-Germanic *hnuts is rejected because Proto-Indo-European *knew-, reconstructed for these, cannot yield Armenian նուշ (nuš).

That's what makes this an interesting coincidence.
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby suruvaippa » 2017-11-25, 3:31

(fi) jo already
(lt) jau already
(es) ya already
Native:   (en-us) C1:   (fi) A1:   (et)   (lt)   (ru)   (es)
Interested:   (smi)   (ka)   (is)   (eu)


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