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Technically, yes, but this isn't what I think of when learning a language. I think of talking with immigrants here, reading literature, enjoying music while actually understanding the lyrics...Sophie wrote:Most people, when they learn a new language, do so because they to be able to do one or more of the following with it: speaking, writing, reading. [And listening.]
Chekhov wrote:I like reading the most, but I don't feel I can "speak" a language until I can carry out a full conversation in it.
Maralol wrote:Surprisingly I find writing harder in Spanish than listening or speaking, but that's probably due to the way I was taught spanish: mainly speaking and listening tv. So I guess it depends on "how" you learn a language. If you focus on, like most people here, reading and writing through assimil and whatnot, you'll find these things easier.
Because while it's possible to get a correct pronunciation out of a spelling like >99% of the time, it doesn't work the other way? =.= The majority of Spanish speakers in the US have to memorize whether a word had a historical /s̺/ (spelled ‹s›) or /s̻/ (spelled ‹c, z›), or historical /ʎ/ or /ʝ/.Chekhov wrote:I have never understood how people can screw up a highly regular and predictable orthography like that of Spanish.
Chekhov wrote:I have never understood how people can screw up a highly regular and predictable orthography like that of Spanish. I know that immigrants don't usually receive formal education in their language, but I would be a lot more forgiving about languages with more irregular spelling, like French or German.
Perhaps I should have asked how they can not have the first clue how to write their language, because I've seen that too.Serafín wrote:Yeah, so? (You asked how it could be possible for native speaker of Spanish to screw spelling up, and there's that.)
Because all they know is how to spell English, and have never cared to pay the least attention at how things are spelled in Spanish?Chekhov wrote:Perhaps I should have asked how they can not have the first clue how to write their language, because I've seen that too.Serafín wrote:Yeah, so? (You asked how it could be possible for native speaker of Spanish to screw spelling up, and there's that.)
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