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Languages without diacritics

Postby zeme » 2009-09-10, 3:07

Obviously English has no diacritics or accents whatsoever, and I was wondering what other languages have that feature.
I know at least Ido doesn't have any..are there other languages?
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby Kasuya » 2009-09-10, 3:25

zeme wrote:Obviously English has no diacritics or accents whatsoever, and I was wondering what other languages have that feature.
I know at least Ido doesn't have any..are there other languages?


Sign language.




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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby Formiko » 2009-09-10, 4:13

Dutch, Indonesian, Swahili, Wolof.
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby JackFrost » 2009-09-10, 5:07

zeme wrote:Obviously English has no diacritics or accents whatsoever, and I was wondering what other languages have that feature.
I know at least Ido doesn't have any..are there other languages?

They do exist in English. Only in foreign loan words... like résumé.
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby linguaholic » 2009-09-10, 7:53

Dutch, Indonesian, Swahili, Wolof.


Don't know about the other ones, but Dutch has a few
-in loan words
- to mark that two vowels are not to be read as a diphtong (i.e. beïnvloeden = influence)
- to mark emphasis
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby Boes » 2009-09-10, 8:00

linguaholic wrote:
Dutch, Indonesian, Swahili, Wolof.


Don't know about the other ones, but Dutch has a few
-in loan words
- to mark that two vowels are not to be read as a diphtong (i.e. beïnvloeden = influence)
- to mark emphasis

Indeed, but Dutch has no specific letters containing diacritcs such as the Norwegian ø ... the few diacritics it uses (mainly the trema) are meant as 'reader guide' not as letters with a totally different pronunciation. It's fair to say that on the whole, Dutch doesn't really use diacritics.

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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby svld » 2009-09-10, 8:58

How about Chinese, Egyptian, Mayan, and Sumerian?

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Postby Ludwig Whitby » 2009-09-10, 12:36

svld wrote:How about Chinese, Egyptian, Mayan, and Sumerian?


Yah, and Bulgarian, Serbian Cyrillic...

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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby Formiko » 2009-09-10, 20:18

svld wrote:How about Chinese, Egyptian, Mayan, and Sumerian?


I think he means languages that use the Roman alphabet.
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby 0stsee » 2009-09-11, 0:56

Formiko wrote:Dutch, Indonesian, Swahili, Wolof.

True. Indonesian doesn't use diacritics and AFAIK Dutch doesn't either.

Do Sebuano and Tagalog use diacritics?
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby ILuvEire » 2009-09-11, 1:09

Tagalog uses ´ ` and ^
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Postby ILuvEire » 2009-09-11, 1:09

Tagalog uses ´ ` and ^
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby Quevenois » 2009-09-11, 1:28

Ok.
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby Sol Invictus » 2009-09-11, 10:56

Any language can be written without diacritics

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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby Tukkumminnguaq » 2009-09-11, 11:29

Some Inuit dialect dont have diacritics (Inuinnaqtun, South Baffin, Nunavik Inuttitut, Kalaallisut/rest of Greenlandic dialect) and Yupik...
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby hashi » 2009-09-11, 11:44

Does it count as a diacritic if a letter like ö, ä or ü are considered separate letters?

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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby zeme » 2009-09-11, 12:44

Yes.
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby Nukalurk » 2009-09-11, 12:53

Shouldn't the dot of "i" also count as diacritic? ;)

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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby Æren » 2009-09-11, 12:59

ILuvEire wrote:Tagalog uses ´ ` and ^

Yes, it does, only in the good grammar books :) In the everyday language they are omitted.
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Re: Languages without diacritics

Postby kibo » 2009-09-11, 16:51

Rumpetroll wrote:Serbian Cyrillic...


We use diacritics in some special circumstances, e.g. when it's necessary to mark the accents (in linguistic texts). We also use the circumflex (^) to mark the long vowel in genitive plural when the meaning is ambiguous (and there are other usages as well). Or at least we should because nobody does that. ;)

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