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Lazar Taxon wrote:Is the level of differentiation (Sanskritic vs. Persiante) between the national varieties of Punjabi and Bengali comparable to that between Hindi and Urdu? I'm curious because people often consider Hindi-Urdu to be two languages, but Punjabi and Bengali don't seem to receive the same treatment.
Western Punjabi may be called "Seraiki", but I don't think that's accurate. I wasn't aware there were different varieties (religiolects?) of Bengali. Anyway, I don't think they differ much because, like with Hindi, the spoken language is probably way more Persified and less Sanskritized than the government Brahmins want.Lazar Taxon wrote:Is the level of differentiation (Sanskritic vs. Persiante) between the national varieties of Punjabi and Bengali comparable to that between Hindi and Urdu? I'm curious because people often consider Hindi-Urdu to be two languages, but Punjabi and Bengali don't seem to receive the same treatment.
Lazar Taxon wrote:Is the level of differentiation (Sanskritic vs. Persiante) between the national varieties of Punjabi and Bengali comparable to that between Hindi and Urdu? I'm curious because people often consider Hindi-Urdu to be two languages, but Punjabi and Bengali don't seem to receive the same treatment.
mōdgethanc wrote:Western Punjabi may be called "Seraiki", but I don't think that's accurate.
Meera wrote:Lazar Taxon wrote:Is the level of differentiation (Sanskritic vs. Persiante) between the national varieties of Punjabi and Bengali comparable to that between Hindi and Urdu? I'm curious because people often consider Hindi-Urdu to be two languages, but Punjabi and Bengali don't seem to receive the same treatment.
I can't really answer for Punjabi. Bengali spoken in both West Bengal and Bangladesh is a lot more Sanskritic than Hindi and probably Punjabi. The only real differences is the type of greetings and religious words. The script is the same. Although the Bangladeshi and Indian accent are different from each other. But you will find both variations are quite sanskritic.
TeneReef wrote:Meera wrote:Lazar Taxon wrote:Is the level of differentiation (Sanskritic vs. Persiante) between the national varieties of Punjabi and Bengali comparable to that between Hindi and Urdu? I'm curious because people often consider Hindi-Urdu to be two languages, but Punjabi and Bengali don't seem to receive the same treatment.
I can't really answer for Punjabi. Bengali spoken in both West Bengal and Bangladesh is a lot more Sanskritic than Hindi and probably Punjabi. The only real differences is the type of greetings and religious words. The script is the same. Although the Bangladeshi and Indian accent are different from each other. But you will find both variations are quite sanskritic.
Bangladeshis are more readily to call their language Bangla,
those from West Bengal prefer the name Bengali/Bengoli (not all of them, but the majority)...
As for the accent, in Bangladesh, Bengali nasal vowels are often denasalized,
in West Bengal they're always nasal.
Furthermore, in West Bengal, Shadhubhasha is still held in high esteem although it is rarely used,
and in situations which would call for its use (for example legislature, science) English is normally used instead ( in West Bengal),
and not dated high register of 19th century Bengali.
In Bangladesh, in legislature and science, people wouldn't write in either English or Shadhubhasha, but in Cholitobhasha (general Bengali, and the former lower register of Bengali, until the beginning of the 20th century when Shadhubhasha/Cholitobhasha diglossia was strong, but now you see other type of diglossia in Bangladesh: Cholitobhasha (high register) vs local dialect (low register)).
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