Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

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Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Tomáš » 2009-03-02, 15:04

Can you - foreigners who speak Slovak understand Czech?...words, grammar etc.

Slovak and Czech are very similar to each other. Well, I am a Czech and can understand Slovak without problems. So, I´d like to know, if a foreigner that speaks good Slovak can understand Czech, too? If he sees the small diferences between the languages or it is a fully foreign language for him?

for example:

in Slovak:

Ahojte, volám sa Tomáš a mam 18 rokov. Pochádzam z Českej Lípy. Toto mesto sa nachádza neďaleko od Liberca, no k Prahe to takisto nie je ďaleko. Praha je naozaj pekné mesto, o tom niet pochýb. Je tam tiež veľa turistov.

in Czech:

Ahoj, jmenuji se Tomáš a je mi 18 let. Pocházím z České Lípy. Toto město se nachází nedaleko od Liberce, ale k Praze to rovněž není daleko. Praha je opravdu krásné město, o tom není pochyb. Je tam také mnoho turistů.

Did you understand? And sorry for my possible mistakes in English in the text. 8-)

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Mulder-21 » 2009-03-02, 18:27

I've only learnt Slovak, and I find Czech pretty difficult. I can usually make out more than half though, but at other times I'm completely lost. I guess the simplification of many endings (-é instead of -ej) and vocabulary is to blaim. I don't know if I'd call it fully foreign though. It's not like German and English or something like that, but to me Slovak and Czech are far enough from each other.

Učil som sa iba slovenčinu, a pre mňa je čeština ťažká. Obyčajne rozumiem takmer polovicu, ale môže aj stať, že úplne nič nerozumiem. Možno je to kvôli zjednodušeniu koncoviek (-é miesto -ej) a slovnej zásobe. Neviem, ak by som ju úplne cudziu nazýval. Nie je to ako rozdiel medzi nemčinou a angličtinou, ale pre mňa sú slovenčina a čeština dosť ďaleko od seba.
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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Tomáš » 2009-03-02, 21:00

Ale po slovensky vieš veľmi dobre 8-) . Ako dlho už študuješ slovenčinu?

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Mulder-21 » 2009-03-02, 22:13

Od augusta 2006. Takže skoro 3 roky. :)
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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Tomáš » 2009-03-02, 22:50

To je dobré vydržať tak dlho u negermánského jazyka. :)

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Tomáš » 2009-03-02, 22:52

Ty bývaš na Slovensku, však?

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Mulder-21 » 2009-03-03, 17:54

Áno, bývam i študujem v Bratislave. :)
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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby ornament » 2009-03-04, 11:51

I guess some easy Czech is understandable even for those who learn Polish, I was recently watching Slovak TV and I could understand a lot of what they were talking there.

Btw I'm thinking of learning Czech or Slovak - but just can't decide which one exactly... or will I maybe manage to learn both at the same time paying attention to the differencies between them? Any advises are welcome!

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Tomáš » 2009-03-05, 22:16

Slovak and Polish are more similar to the East Slavonic languages (some words, grammar etc.) and Czech is a little bit out of them :-). But Czech, Slovak and Polish are very similar to each other. Slovak is more difficult for pronunciation than Czech, I think. Good luck to choosing between the languages :D .

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Mulder-21 » 2009-03-06, 0:26

Tomáš wrote:Slovak is more difficult for pronunciation than Czech, I think.


Si vážny??? Čo s českým ř?
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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby chung » 2009-03-06, 6:19

Ano, rozumiem prvy tekst bez problemu. Rozumiem cesky, ked pocujem / citam spisovny jazyk. Ale obcas je mi tazko rozumiet hovorovu cestinu alebo narecia.

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Tomáš » 2009-03-06, 19:05

Mulder-21 wrote:
Tomáš wrote:Slovak is more difficult for pronunciation than Czech, I think.


Si vážny??? Čo s českým ř?


To "ř" ide asi ťažko vysloviť pre cudzincov, no dá sa to naučiť...nie je to tak ťažké.

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Tomáš » 2009-03-06, 19:10

chung wrote:Ano, rozumiem prvy tekst bez problemu. Rozumiem cesky, ked pocujem / citam spisovny jazyk. Ale obcas je mi tazko rozumiet hovorovu cestinu alebo narecia.


Když budeš hodně poslouchat, tak se naučíš hodně :-)./ Keď budeš veľa počúvať, naučíš sa veľa. :-)

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Vstajena » 2009-03-07, 12:29

Ja študujem slovenčinu, ale pasívne rozumiem aj češtine, asi na 80-90%.

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby Riks » 2009-03-07, 13:50

Dovolím si zopár opráv:
Mulder-21 wrote:Si vážny??? Myslíš to vážne?Čo s českým ř?

chung wrote:Ano, rozumiem prvy tekst text bez problemu. Rozumiem cesky, ked pocujem / citam spisovny jazyk. Ale obcas je mi tazko rozumiet hovorovu cestinu alebo narecia.

Vstajena wrote:Ja študujem slovenčinu, ale pasívne rozumiem aj češtine, asi na 80-90%.
Asi žiaden Slovan nemá väčší problém porozumieť inému slovanskému jazyku. :) Ktovie, ako sú na tom ostatní. 8-)
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Postby Vstajena » 2009-03-07, 19:35

Riks wrote:Asi žiaden Slovan nemá väčší problém porozumieť inému slovanskému jazyku. :) Ktovie, ako sú na tom ostatní. 8-)

Hmm, máš síce pravdu, ale ja osobne poľštine napríklad nerozumiem. :)

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Re: Can foreigners who can speak Slovak understand Czech?

Postby axaxaxasz mlö » 2009-03-22, 19:11

ornament wrote:I guess some easy Czech is understandable even for those who learn Polish

I can confirm that. I have some Lucky Luke comics and a Little Nicolas book in Czech, and I can understand and enjoy the texts.


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