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OK, when thinking about it I've noticed that Mälardalen Swedish is somewhat suffused with a tendency of general consonant palatalisation, similar (but not to the same extent as) Russian. This may explain why [mʲ] is possible in your speech in positions where it's not possible for me.Dingbats wrote:Says who? It doesn't for me, obviously.
When I'm trying to pronounce tämjts with a non-silent j it turns out like [ˈtʰɛmʲːjəts], [ˈtʰɛmːəjts] and - most often - [ˈtʰɛjmts].Prosper_Youplaboum wrote:I'd like to hear recordings of all of you, pronouncing that word
Chekhov wrote:I don't know about naive worldviews, but Jurgen Wullenwhatever pisses me off to no end because of his extreme pessimism and cynicism. You'd think the world was going to end imminently when talking to that guy.
I thought it was Middle Swedish (mellansvenska). To me Western Mälardalian is more like what they speak in Västerås and Eskilstuna, i.e., the transitional area between Up-Swedish (uppsvenska) and Middle Swedish.Jurgen Wullenwever wrote:I speak Western Maelardalian,
If you have that palatalised r ("böckej" instead of böcker) sound so typical for stockholmers you probably have the kind of generalized palatalisation I refer to.Jurgen Wullenwever wrote:so I do not know whether that palatalisation has something to do with me,
Hunef wrote:I thought it was Middle Swedish (mellansvenska). To me Western Mälardalian is more like what they speak in Västerås and Eskilstuna, i.e., the transitional area between Up-Swedish (uppsvenska) and Middle Swedish.
Hunef wrote:If you have that palatalised r ("böckej" instead of böcker) sound so typical for stockholmers you probably have the kind of generalized palatalisation I refer to.
Chekhov wrote:I don't know about naive worldviews, but Jurgen Wullenwhatever pisses me off to no end because of his extreme pessimism and cynicism. You'd think the world was going to end imminently when talking to that guy.
Maybe you're right. I just think Örebro is situated too close to Värmland (which is almost Southeastern Norway!) to be part of Mälardalen.Jurgen Wullenwever wrote:Those places seems to be part of the Gnellbeltian region as well. The Hielmer lake is part of the Maelardale.
I beg to differ.derevon wrote:In my opinion some degree of palatalization is necessary here for this word to sound good.
Hunef wrote:I beg to differ.derevon wrote:In my opinion some degree of palatalization is necessary here for this word to sound good.
The artificialness in "tämjts" hurts my eyes (when read) and ears (when pronounced), though.Dingbats wrote:Fine! It's nice to have dialectal/idiolectal/whateverlectal differences.
Prosper_Youplaboum wrote:I tried what you said, I typed tämjts ici
http://www.acapela-group.com/text-to-sp ... -demo.html
and the pronunciation you get, is rather [tʰɛmits]...
Hunef wrote:The artificialness in "tämjts" hurts my eyes (when read) and ears (when pronounced), though.
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