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byle

Postby Polonus » 2011-06-21, 8:00

It has just crossed my mind that as a matter of fact there is no close counterpart for the particle/conjunction byle in English. i.e. -

Zrobił to byle jak.
Przyjdzie taki byle kto i będzie mnie pouczał.
Połóż to gdzie chcesz, byle nie tutaj.
Szedł naprzód byle dalej.
Cieszyła go byle drobnostka.
Nie byle kto mi to mówił.

Can you think of any English or other languages translation?

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Re: byle

Postby Milya0 » 2011-06-21, 13:14

I see two meanings of the particle:

a. optative, desiderative use, with emphasized importancy of action/situation
Byle nie ja. - Let it be not me. (That's all what I want.)
Byleby tylko ktoś to zrobił. - May someone just do it. (Nothing else is so important.)

b. (connected) indication that concrete person/object/manner is not important
Zawołaj byle kogo. - Call anybody. (It does not matter, who.)
Wybrałem byle jak. - I made whatever choice. (Not caring about any decision.)
Qroo₃₁ kaa₄ cro₂ kraa₃ kaa₄ qo₄₁ cra₄₁ ka₄ qoo₄₂ krá₄₂.

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Re: byle

Postby Bendek » 2012-05-28, 22:13

Milya0 wrote:Byle nie ja. - Let it be not me. (That's all what I want.)

Yes means just not me, byle = just in that sentence
Milya0 wrote:Byleby tylko ktoś to zrobił. - May someone just do it. (Nothing else is so important.)

More fits: Just anyone has to do this, who, doesn't matter (i want that job to be done)here also means just.
Someone who likes to work and taking challenges cant be protected (from getting eventual his hands dirty, because will take his work enthusiasm and happiness away

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Re: byle

Postby Bendek » 2012-05-28, 22:19

Zrobił to byle jak. He did/made it in careless way
Przyjdzie taki byle kto i będzie mnie pouczał. There will come such anywho and will be teaching me (here u can see irony and that someone is pissed off)
Połóż to gdzie chcesz, byle nie tutaj. Lie it wherever you want, just not here
Szedł naprzód byle dalej. He was walking forward just to be farer
Cieszyła go byle drobnostka. He was happy about any trifle
Nie byle kto mi to mówił. It wasnt anywho who was telling me this
Someone who likes to work and taking challenges cant be protected (from getting eventual his hands dirty, because will take his work enthusiasm and happiness away


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