Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Saim » 2015-05-27, 9:30

Lauren wrote:Word order in negative sentences is very different from positive sentences. ... But generally, the periphrastic verb comes at the end of the sentence and the negative particle and auxiliary come at or near the beginning.


I had indeed been taught the word order of negative sentences in Introducció al Basc, but in a whole semester we only ever negated synthetic verbs. :lol:

EDIT: In fact, I think we only ever negated izan. Incidentally today I got up to the part of Assimil: Le Basque unifié where they teach you how to negate periphrases.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Saim » 2015-05-27, 12:56

Bai, Australia Zooan koala bat laztandu dut. Australia Zoo Australiako zoologiko bat da.

Hurrengo lagunak orain musika entzuten dut.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby arabarra » 2015-05-27, 16:06

Hurrengo lagunak orain musika entzuten dut.


...du

ez. Burubelarri lanean, musikaren partez. Beno, ez hain burubelarri, euskara jokoan parte hartzeko beta bilatu dudanean....

hurrengo lagunak fosil bat aurkitu zuen txikitan.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Lur » 2015-05-27, 16:42

Bai, itsas trikuak :D

Hurrengo laguna zinema mutua gogoko du

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Saim » 2015-06-17, 18:24

Ez, ez dut zinema mutua gogoko. Niri filmak soinuarekin zaizkit.

Hurrengo lagunak ez ditu film asko ikusten.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby arabarra » 2015-06-24, 11:37

Hurrengo lagunak ez ditu film asko ikusten.


Zertako ba? Gaur egun HBO-k serie hobeak ekoizten ditu ta...


hurrengo lagunak belarriak estaltzen ditu hotz dagoenean.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Saim » 2015-06-24, 18:42

Bai, belarriak estaltzen ditut hotz nagoenean. Neguan txanorekin lo egin dut (belarriak estaltzeko); batzuk nire lagun uste dute hori arraro da.

Hurrengo lagunak udan barruko jantziak bakarrik janzten du, lo egin du bitartean.
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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby arabarra » 2015-06-25, 4:46

Some correactions

batzuk nire lagun uste dute hori arraro da.


Nire lagun batzuk uste dute hori arraroa dela.

Hurrengo lagunak udan barruko jantziak bakarrik janzten du, lo egin du bitartean.


(The next person in summer sleeps in his underwear)
Hurrengo lagunak udan barruko jantziak bakarrik janzten ditu lo egiten duen bitartean.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby crush » 2015-06-26, 6:46

Barruko jantziak bakarrik ala barruko jantzirik gabe? :lol:

Bai, bestela ez dakit nola lo egiten dezakezun, bero haundiegia egiten duenez gero...

Hurrengo lagunak ez du lanik egingo udan.
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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby arabarra » 2015-06-26, 13:25

Metabolismo geldoagoaz baina lan, lan egin beharko dut. Tamalez ta zoritxarrez.


Hurrengo lagunak euskal pilota gustuko du.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Lauren » 2015-07-10, 10:11

Ez, ez zaizkit kirolak askorik gustatzen.

Hurrengo laguna beroarekin asperturik dago.
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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Saim » 2015-07-12, 14:22

Ez, ez da hori arazo handia. Ongi nago.

Hurrengo lagunak dakit zer nire profila argazkiak adierazten.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Lauren » 2015-07-12, 19:42

Saim wrote:Ez, ez da hori arazo handia. Ongi nago.

Hurrengo lagunak dakit zer nire profila argazkiak adierazten.

"Dakit" lehen pertsona da (nik). :)

Ez, ez dakit zer adierazten duen. Armarriren bat al da?

Hurrengo lagunarentzat beti zaila da joko honetarako erantzun bat ateratzeko. :doggy:
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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Saim » 2015-07-12, 21:26

Lauren wrote:
Saim wrote:Ez, ez da hori arazo handia. Ongi nago.

Hurrengo lagunak dakit zer nire profila argazkiak adierazten.

"Dakit" lehen pertsona da (nik). :)

Ez, ez dakit zer adierazten duen. Armarriren bat al da?

Hurrengo lagunarentzat beti zaila da joko honetarako erantzun bat ateratzeko. :doggy:


Bai, Voivodinako armarria da hori. Voivodina bat Serbiako probintzia autonomoeta da. Nire ama Voivodinako da. Ere ni Voivodinan nago orain eta irailera arte egingo dut.

Zure galdera erantzuteko: bai, gai honetan jende gutxi dagoelako.

Hurrengo lagunak ez da ziur bada Laurenko galdera ulertu du.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Lauren » 2015-07-12, 22:02

Saim wrote:Bai, Voivodinako armarria da hori. Voivodina Serbiako probintzia autonomoetariko/autonomoetako bat da. Nire ama Voivodinako da. Ni Voivodinan nago orain eta iraila arte egongo dut.

Zure galdera erantzuteko: bai, gai honetan jende gutxi dagoelako.

Hurrengo laguna ez dago ziur bada Lauren-en galdera ulertu duela.

Ziur dago nire galdera ez duzula ulertu. :whistle: Sentitzen dut. Hurrengoa esan nahi nuen: "It is difficult for the person after me to come up with a question for this game." (I said "erantzun" but meant "galdera". Brainfart. :P )

I'm not sure what you were trying to say exactly with your question. I assume you meant something like "The person after me isn't sure if they understand Lauren's question." so I went with that in my corrections. Overall your Basque is quite good and you are making great progress, so good job. :partyhat:


Ez, nire galdera osorik ulertzen dut. :mrgreen:

Hurrengo lagunak opera bat zuzenean* ikusi zuen.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Saim » 2015-07-13, 17:12

Eskerrik asko, Lauren. Bai, nik hori ("isn't sure if they understand Lauren's question") esan nahi zaitut.

Ez, ez dut opera zuzenean bat inoiz ikusi.

Hurrengo lagunak kontatuko du gaur gertatu dela gauza bat.

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Lauren » 2015-07-13, 19:51

Saim wrote:Eskerrik asko, Lauren. Bai, nik hori esan nahi zaitut.

Ez, ez dut opera bat zuzenean inoiz ikusi.

Hurrengo lagunak kontatuko digu gaur gertatu dela gauza bat.

In the sentence "Bai, nik hori esan nahi zaitut" you can say either:

Bai, nik hori zuri esan nahi dut. or
Bai, nik hori esan nahi dizut.

Prescriptively speaking, the former is correct, since "nahi" is technically the object of the auxiliary. Though in reality the latter would probably be used more by normal speakers, with the construction being reanalyzed and "hori" becoming the direct object and "zuri" becoming the indirect object of the auxiliary.
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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Saim » 2015-07-13, 20:12

1. What is the difference between digu and du?

2. I understand the syntactical reasoning behind your explanation, but I lack some background knowledge - what does zuri mean and how does dizut differ from dut?

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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby Lauren » 2015-07-14, 4:41

1. du is the present tense indicative auxiliary, with both a 3rd person singular subject and object. digu is the same tense, but with different persons. The subject and direct object are 3rd person singular, but the indirect object is 1st person plural. For an example, "eman du" would mean "she/he gave it" and "eman digu" would mean "she/he gave it to us". So in your sentence, you need to say "kontatuko digu" which means "she/he (hurrengo lagunak) will tell us..." In the case of transitive verbs you still need a direct object in Basque, even if it's not stated in the English equivalent, so really that sentence would be translated as "the following person will tell it to us a thing that happened today". These 3 part auxiliaries like "digu" are called NOR-NORK-NORI, whereas the 2 part ones like "du" are called NOR-NORK.

2. "zuri" means "to you". "dizut" means "I ... it to you." So, since the verb "esan" requires the person you're saying something to to be the indirect object.

Let me stop and apologize profusely for making a couple mistakes in my last post. :whistle: I was very tired. :mrgreen:

Since you meant to say "I meant this" you would say "esan nahi dut". "esan nahi dizut" would mean "I want to say it to you" which isn't what you were going for. That was a mistake on my part.

Also, I overlooked an error in your last question. It should be "gaur gertatu den gauza bat". I don't know the linguistic terms off the top of my head and I don't know any equivalents in languages you know, but the "-n" suffix means "that" as in "the dog that barked" and "-la" means "that" as in "I told you that the dog barked." I hope that made sense!
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Re: Hurrengo laguna (jokoa)

Postby crush » 2015-07-18, 13:30

Lauren wrote:Since you meant to say "I meant this" you would say "esan nahi dut". "esan nahi dizut" would mean "I want to say it to you" which isn't what you were going for. That was a mistake on my part.
Isn't "esan nahi dut" in the present tense? Wouldn't it be better to say "esan nahi nuen" or even "esan nahi izan nuen"?

The -(e)n in "gertatu den gauza bat" is a relative clause. To me it's kinda like taking a phrase and turning it into an adjective: a "that happened" thing. -(e)la is used for indirect statements.

Ez, ez dizuet gaur gertatu den gauza bat kontatuko... :whistle: Gaur goizean nere ikasleei esperanto irakatsi diet.

Hurrengo laguna nekatuta dago.
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