Anyone know this character?

[Babelfish]

Well, this could be made into a general character-searching thread
Specifically, I encountered [jiantizi]乄[/jiantizi] (U+4E44) as an example of what seems to be a very rare stroke (left-slant with a hook). I've looked for it in online dictionaries, out of curiosity, but it isn't found. Anybody know this?

[Bubulus]

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E4%B9%84

[null]

http://www.zdic.net/zd/zi/ZdicE4ZdicB9Zdic84.htm

you can paste any shit on:

www.zdic.net

[Babelfish]

[jiantizi]多谢！[/jiantizi]

[Babelfish]

While at it, anyone know this one: [jiantizi]夨[/jiantizi] or its "brother" [jiantizi]奊[/jiantizi]? Again weird strokes, listed under the radical [jiantizi]大[/jiantizi], and even Zdic can't give any information in English

[svld]

夨 奊

Where did you got these strange characters?


After some search I got these

夨 音「仄」，傾斜著頭
奊 音「斜」，頭歪斜不正

夨
Mandarin : ze4

奊
Mandarin : xie2
Cantonese : hai5, kwai4
Taiwanese (MLT) : kuii, khied

說文解字 卷十一 夨部:
夨：傾頭也。从大，象形。凡夨之屬皆从夨。
奊：頭衺、骩奊態也。从夨圭聲。

[Babelfish]

Where indeed The dictionary, actually - you find all kinds of weird characters and creatures in a radical-strokes index.
Well, both seem to have to do with inclining the head, but since I haven't really encountered them in texts it's not that important. I just wondered what they were doing in the dictionary in the first place... Nice to see an excerpt from 說文解字, too, although I couldn't even find the characters which are supposed to be the explanation. 謝謝又一次！

[null]

[jiantizi]夨[/jiantizi]: cè

(someone's) head a little to one side.

[jiantizi]奊[/jiantizi]: xié

Someone holds his head awry, this status.

[Babelfish]

We've got this piece of pottery from China, which IIRC is actually made of shards of vessels destroyed by the Chinese authorities during the [un]Cultural Revolution. The character on it is probably ancient, and I couldn't find it even on Unicode using radical-strkoe lookup. Anyone has any idea?

[linguoboy]

We've got this piece of pottery from China, which IIRC is actually made of shards of vessels destroyed by the Chinese authorities during the [un]Cultural Revolution. The character on it is probably ancient, and I couldn't find it even on Unicode using radical-strkoe lookup. Anyone has any idea?

That's plain old "double happiness".

[Babelfish]

Oh, thanks. I know the character 囍 but couldn't recognize this ligature form.

[kamanek]

We've got this piece of pottery from China, which IIRC is actually made of shards of vessels destroyed by the Chinese authorities during the [un]Cultural Revolution. The character on it is probably ancient, and I couldn't find it even on Unicode using radical-strkoe lookup. Anyone has any idea?

That's not the hanzi for hmong language? :O

[Śrāmaṇera]

It's a very common character, often referred to as 双喜字. My Chinese students gave me a few of them they cut in red paper so I can keep happiness with me at all times

[Chekhov]

Oh, thanks. I know the character 囍 but couldn't recognize this ligature form.

It's almost always written as a ligature. I don't think I've even seen it any other way except in dictionaries.

[モモンガ]

http://hanja.naver.com/hanja?q=%E5%9B%8D

Korean hanja for double happiness is a little different.
Maybe the one in the picture is some kind of alternative character?

[Pangu]

http://hanja.naver.com/hanja?q=%E5%9B%8D

Korean hanja for double happiness is a little different.
Maybe the one in the picture is some kind of alternative character?

The so-called "Korean version" is just two 喜 written next to each other, which I have also seen in the Chinese-speaking world.

There are a few different versions and they differ due to design. There are even some where the 口 are written as hearts.

[Babelfish]

Actually it does look a bit different, using 十 between each pair of 口. In Unicode it's the same character, though, the Korean style is just different.

[azhong]

Hi, Babelfish:
It never comes to my mind we need such a thread you've suggested. However I agree now this thread a good place to discuss single Chinese characters. Thus my response here to push it forward.

I've roughly gone through the characters you've asked. Say, only "囍" is sometimes seen. I guess even professors in the Chinese literature/language department don't know them.

As for some other friends whose Chinese are not so excellent as Babelfish, we can also just throw out some practical characters to request some comments on its original meaning and its derived ones. It's indeed helpful for mastering phrases and idioms if one have some understanding of each character.
For example, this Chinese character often lies on the road in Taiwan. Do you know why?



Do you know
(1) its pronunciation?
(2) its correct meaning here?
(3) how to write it in the correct strike order?
Usually a word has several possible meanings, and so is this one.
(4) Can you see the deviation/ relationship among its different meanings?
(5) Do you know any phrases or idioms with this character?
And finally, if you have interested to
(6) make some sentence(s) by using this character or the terms you figured out in (4). And I will be glad to discuss together on your sentences.

[Śrāmaṇera]

Very good idea.

Do you know
(1) 慢 màn
(2) "slowly"
(3) I know the correct stroke order but I am too lazy to describe it using words
(4) I just know this character has different connotations, all derived probably from this "slow" meaning, such as "idle", "lazy", "loose" (at least in Japanese, I'm not sure if it has other possible meanings in Chinese).
(5) 慢點 、慢走 、慢慢來...
(6) 不用著急，你慢慢吃吧。
我的電腦速度太慢了，不知道該怎麼辦。

[azhong]

Hi Nejimakidori (ねじまきどり？):

All are correct, the information in your response, and the two sentences are perfect. Thanks for your response, and I am also glad you've enjoyed it.
--And then?

I post another Chinese character for us? Or you do? Or some other one does?
Or do you have any questions on "慢"? Or do you wanna try making some longer sentence(s)? Or you wanna me to provide an English sentence with "slow/slowness" for us to practice translation? Or provide a Chinese sentence which includes "慢" to read?
Or would you like to tell me what's your personal need in learning Chinese for now, whether there is something I can help? I've just checked some of your sentences in "the person after me", all are very correct.
Or Do you have any suggestion about the need of this forum? You've been hear long.