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meidei wrote:I think I remain stable at -9/-9 for the last 4 years in this test.
But that didn't mean that the framework in which I pursued my socioeconomic views didn't shift. From Marxism-influenced social democrat, to social liberalism, to libertarian socialism with Communalist influences.
Koko wrote:Finally took this to see just where I stand on the spectrum, and I'm quite happy with the results (I guess ).
Economic L/R: -4.5
Social Lib/Aut: -1.79
What does that mean?
Kiani wrote:Economically centre-left, socially centrist. So you support a degree of government regulation of business while supporting private enterprise and economic freedom ,
and largely think that the government should stay out of people's personal lives
but are not against restrictions on personal freedom when said restrictions will benefit society.
Does that sound about right to you?
Koko wrote:I'm going to guess you're (Saaropean) NPD is something akin to "New Party for Democracy?"
Koko wrote:Kiani wrote:Economically centre-left, socially centrist. So you support a degree of government regulation of business while supporting private enterprise and economic freedom ,
I'm inclined to not agree with this, but (maybe cause I'm still not fully awake) not quite sure what this meansand largely think that the government should stay out of people's personal lives
Indeed.but are not against restrictions on personal freedom when said restrictions will benefit society.
Largely depends on what it is. I can't think of any now, but I'm sure there have been a few restrictions (or plans for) that were supposed to benefit society, but I just couldn't agree.Does that sound about right to you?
A little. Except for agreeing with private enterprise. I'm not too fond of those. I thought I'd be slightly less central to be honest But I wonder how much more I'd agree or disagree.
Thanks ^^
Kiani wrote:By "free enterprise," etc. I basically meant capitalism, but I was trying to paint it more positively and perhaps in a more libertarian (in the loose sense of the word) fashion. If you're not fond of it, though...are you a socialist, or do you just support regulation?
I guess restrictions on third-trimester abortions would count as government intervention that could be argued to benefit society, since it arguably saves the fetus' life and prevents the mother from making a choice that she might regret. (I don't agree with this, it's just an example.)
Edit: I spelled "trimester," as "trimestre,"...damn you, French!
Koko wrote:Kiani wrote:By "free enterprise," etc. I basically meant capitalism, but I was trying to paint it more positively and perhaps in a more libertarian (in the loose sense of the word) fashion. If you're not fond of it, though...are you a socialist, or do you just support regulation?
Hmm, I've always considered myself a socialist since learning more of what terms mean. I know there are types of socialism that sort of go for capitalism (in a way possible that still works with socialist beliefs) and others that absolutely don't, but honestly, I'm not sure if I truly side on either. But to answer your question as simply as possible, I'm a socialist.
I guess restrictions on third-trimester abortions would count as government intervention that could be argued to benefit society, since it arguably saves the fetus' life and prevents the mother from making a choice that she might regret. (I don't agree with this, it's just an example.)
I wouldn't necessarily say yes or no to that regulation. Personally, I think if you wanted an abortion you would've gotten it as soon as possible rather than wasting 6 or so months being pregnant. As stupid as I'd think the one who decides the third trimester is a fabulous time to abort the baby, I still agree that the woman should have that option (even if the fetus is in its final stages of development).
Edit: I spelled "trimester," as "trimestre,"...damn you, French!
I feel that would be a perfectly acceptable Canadian spelling via analogy of metre, centre, etc.
Kiani wrote:Nuh-uh. Those "types of socialism that go for capitalism," (I assume by this you mean the ideologies of parties like Die Linke, SYRIZA/Popular Unity and Podemos and people like Sanders, Corbyn etc.) are plain capitalism, just with a more paternalistic government and a different sort of bullshit sloganeering. Socialism means socialised means of production, which necessarily entails the total negation of every aspect of capitalism. If you support that, then...well, solidarity, comrade .
I'm surprised you didn't score much further down the chart, in that case. I got -8.92 (on the y axis) and I'm a Trotskyist, which is considered authoritarian by many socialists.
I use British English, so that should be correct for me too, but I've never seen anyone use that spelling. I don't know. English is weird.
I'm surprised you didn't score much further down the chart, in that case. I got -8.92 (on the y axis) and I'm a Trotskyist, which is considered authoritarian by many socialists.
Koko wrote:Kiani wrote:Nuh-uh. Those "types of socialism that go for capitalism," (I assume by this you mean the ideologies of parties like Die Linke, SYRIZA/Popular Unity and Podemos and people like Sanders, Corbyn etc.) are plain capitalism, just with a more paternalistic government and a different sort of bullshit sloganeering. Socialism means socialised means of production, which necessarily entails the total negation of every aspect of capitalism. If you support that, then...well, solidarity, comrade .
Oh, then yes, I do support the negation of capitalism ^^
I'm surprised you didn't score much further down the chart, in that case. I got -8.92 (on the y axis) and I'm a Trotskyist, which is considered authoritarian by many socialists.
Interesting, I think I did say strongly agree for that question on abortion in the test. Perhaps it was because of some other questions. I did stay with the simple agree/disagree for a lot of questions, maybe that kept me so high?
I use British English, so that should be correct for me too, but I've never seen anyone use that spelling. I don't know. English is weird.
Yeah, at least you've experienced the same spelling dilemma a native English speaker would have
meidei wrote:I'm surprised you didn't score much further down the chart, in that case. I got -8.92 (on the y axis) and I'm a Trotskyist, which is considered authoritarian by many socialists.
Still, in non-revolutionary context, we'd rather work with Trotskyists rather than Stalinists and Maoists.
Left unity is a trap though.
Really? I wouldn't have thought anarchists would see any difference between us and Stalinists. Why do you prefer to work with Trots?
Kiani wrote:Yaaaay! *claps*
The next thing to do is find out which tiny irrelevant splinter group you sympathise with...though I don't blame you if you don't want to!
Oh and read Capital. It's not that scary, I swear.
Now, that won't do, comrade. If you want to be a true communist, you have to be as raaadical as possible, to the point of cutting yourself with your edginess.
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