linguoboy wrote:It's very much up to discretion of the officer whether they demand this.
Wait, you mean this is legal?
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linguoboy wrote:It's very much up to discretion of the officer whether they demand this.
vijayjohn wrote:linguoboy wrote:It's very much up to discretion of the officer whether they demand this.
Wait, you mean this is legal?
Johanna wrote:So in the US, the police can't stop you just to check that you aren't drunk, or simply that you are allowed to drive at all?
linguoboy wrote:Johanna wrote:So in the US, the police can't stop you just to check that you aren't drunk, or simply that you are allowed to drive at all?
Sure they can. They just have to come up with some sort of plausible reason to cover their asses, which is super easy to do when you're driving. (A high school teacher of mine used to say you can't get in a car without breaking half-a-dozen traffic laws.) If they say you made an "unexpected lane change", then it's your word against theirs if you want to dispute this in court for some reason.
Johanna wrote:Especially since an "unexpected lane change" here translates to "reckless driving", something that might be a felony. So using that as an excuse is way worse than no excuse at all. And yeah, keeping the roads clear from idiots who drive despite a lack of a license is already good enough for us.
Prowler wrote:Also, what's with Italy and Spain having a reputation for being "very racist"? Where does that even come from? I hope people don't base that on that CNN hooliganism in football video. I could see Russia or Poland or Hungary having a reputation for being racist but Spain and Italy? I can't just see it, but maybe I'm missing something here? This really is not my element as you can see. I've never been a big expert on these matters.
Car wrote:Prowler wrote:Also, what's with Italy and Spain having a reputation for being "very racist"? Where does that even come from? I hope people don't base that on that CNN hooliganism in football video. I could see Russia or Poland or Hungary having a reputation for being racist but Spain and Italy? I can't just see it, but maybe I'm missing something here? This really is not my element as you can see. I've never been a big expert on these matters.
The racism in Italian and Spanish football might be one reason (I dunno which CNN video you mean, but it certainly came up in the international press often enough in the past), but a black American internet friend of mine once mentioned the problems he had with racism in both countries. He also said it was very different in Barcelona (but then added that "Catalonia isn't Spain. Sorry to my Catalan friends."). He mentioned about Italy that he doesn't want to go there again unless his job or his wife make him to.
Babbsagg wrote:There's racism and xenophoby everywhere but I'm not sure if football hooliganism is representative. Some people become really combative there and mob mentality brings up the worst in people. "we're building a subway from Auschwitz to St. Pauli" was one of the chants against Hamburg football club St. Pauli, and that didn't even involve racism. It's pretty ugly over there and I'm not sure if that gives an accurate image of general racism/xenophoby in a given society. I'm always curious to hear experiences with everyday racism, I just don't think football stadiums are good examples.
linguoboy wrote:You know, we have sports rivalries here, too. We also have a lot of racism. But this sort of racist taunting at sports events is shocking to us.
Certain situations may "bring out the worst in people". But they can't bring out what wasn't already there.
linguoboy wrote:You know, we have sports rivalries here, too. We also have a lot of racism. But this sort of racist taunting at sports events is shocking to us.
Certain situations may "bring out the worst in people". But they can't bring out what wasn't already there.
Babbsagg wrote:I'm curious about what it's like in the States though, with American Football. I've heard people say that on the field it's more violent than soccer, but the crowd is more peaceful. True?
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