Bao wrote:hlysnan wrote:There is a demand and supply.
So what, do you believe, will happen when you try to cut the supply?
They'll be forced to hire Australian citizens--and at higher wages!
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Bao wrote:hlysnan wrote:There is a demand and supply.
So what, do you believe, will happen when you try to cut the supply?
Tenebrarum wrote:Why don't people thinking like you all get born in poop-hole countries like Afghanistan... We'll see what attitude you would adopt living such a life.
linguoboy wrote:Really? The statistics I can find rank it fifth from the bottom in a field of thirteen. Where are the ones you found which put in at the top?
linguoboy wrote:It's actually even worse than that: Nauru has no military at all, just a small police force. It relies entirely on Australia for its defence. So it's pretty disingenuous to talk of them "wanting" to accept an offer they can't refuse.
linguoboy wrote:I think his point is: If they are asylum-seekers, why didn't they seek asylum in Indonesia (or any of the other countries they passed through after leaving the jurisdiction where they suffered persecution)?
linguoboy wrote:They'll be forced to hire Australian citizens--and at higher wages!
hlysnan wrote:Tenebrarum wrote:Why don't people thinking like you all get born in poop-hole countries like Afghanistan... We'll see what attitude you would adopt living such a life.
The job of country leaders is to represent the interests of their constituents. Illegal immigrants are not in the interest of the majority of Australians, which is the main reason why John Howard was voted in, in 2001 and 2004. "We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come."
Tenebrarum wrote:It's not about politics, really, just whether you're able to sympathise with your fellow human beings or not, even though they come from environments radically different from yours.
loqu wrote:Tenebrarum wrote:It's not about politics, really, just whether you're able to sympathise with your fellow human beings or not, even though they come from environments radically different from yours.
They're not human beings, silly. Human beings are white.
hlysnan wrote:"We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come."
hlysnan wrote:Tenebrarum wrote:Why don't people thinking like you all get born in poop-hole countries like Afghanistan... We'll see what attitude you would adopt living such a life.
The job of country leaders is to represent the interests of their constituents. Illegal immigrants are not in the interest of the majority of Australians, which is the main reason why John Howard was voted in, in 2001 and 2004. "We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come."
http://museumvictoria.com.au/immigratio ... ch-speech/
linguoboy wrote:Saim wrote:So... that makes them all economic migrants? Wut?
I think his point is: If they are asylum-seekers, why didn't they seek asylum in Indonesia (or any of the other countries they passed through after leaving the jurisdiction where they suffered persecution)?
Personally I agree with the researchers at the Forced Migration Studies Programme in Witwatersrand when they point up a "false dichotomy" between economic migrants and other sorts of "forced migrants", so I don't consider the distinction particularly relevant. But there are people who do and, if you're one of them, it is a legitimate question to ask.
Tenebrarum wrote:Because no country exists in a vacuum. Bad Things won't simply stay in the Other Reality. They will reach Your Reality, and you will see them and your police force will become a part of them, regardless of what you do.
No, actually, Bad Things have been there all along, well before any "illegal" alien comes to your world. The immigrants' Bad Things are just more acute.
So you might as well wish your "illegal" fellow human beings luck, and leave them alone if they don't seek to harm you.
Saim wrote:To answer that I'd say: how does Indonesia treat its refugees?
Saim wrote:And how is it a false dichotomy?
linguoboy wrote:Bao wrote:hlysnan wrote:There is a demand and supply.
So what, do you believe, will happen when you try to cut the supply?
They'll be forced to hire Australian citizens--and at higher wages!
Tenebrarum wrote:Because no country exists in a vacuum. Bad Things won't simply stay in the Other Reality. They will reach Your Reality, and you will see them and your police force will become a part of them, regardless of what you do.
No, actually, Bad Things have been there all along, well before any "illegal" alien comes to your world. The immigrants' Bad Things are just more acute.
So you might as well wish your "illegal" fellow human beings luck, and leave them alone if they don't seek to harm you.
How dare you bust Yasha's and the other neocons' little pink bubble world
Bao wrote:linguoboy wrote:Bao wrote:hlysnan wrote:There is a demand and supply.
So what, do you believe, will happen when you try to cut the supply?
They'll be forced to hire Australian citizens--and at higher wages!
I was actually still asking about sex workers, not illegal immigrants.
linguoboy wrote:Bao wrote:linguoboy wrote:Bao wrote:hlysnan wrote:There is a demand and supply.
So what, do you believe, will happen when you try to cut the supply?
They'll be forced to hire Australian citizens--and at higher wages!
I was actually still asking about sex workers, not illegal immigrants.
So was I!
Bao wrote:linguoboy wrote:Bao wrote:linguoboy wrote:They'll be forced to hire Australian citizens--and at higher wages!
I was actually still asking about sex workers, not illegal immigrants.
So was I!
Odd, I was under the impression that most prostitutes work for fees.
linguoboy wrote:(If there's a professional body regulating the sex trade in Australia, then I'd love to know what their licensing exam consists of!)
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