Aspectual pairs in language learning

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Aspectual pairs in language learning

Postby Mudskipper » 2016-01-19, 1:38

Hello all,

It's my first post. I had fun browsing the forum and skimming a few topics. Though I admit I came here with specific questions in mind. About Russian specifically, and other Slavic languages in general.

I'm thinking of developing a tool to practice vocabulary from and to several Latin & slavic languages and I have a dilemma.

When learning say Russian vocabulary from another language using aspectual pairs as well (such as Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Serbian...), or the other way around:
Is it more convenient to learn them by pair, or independently?
For example if you're learning Russian from Ukrainian or Ukrainian from Russian, would you rather learn these 2 items:
говорить/поговорить = говорити/поговорити
писать/написать = писати/написати
OR these 4 items:
говорить = говорити
поговорить = поговорити
писать = писати
написать = написати
In the second case, is it a big deal (or is it actually better) if different aspectual forms are learnt at different moments ? for example говорить would be learnt before as it's used more and поговорить would come up a bit further in the list.

I'm only comfortable with french and English so I have trouble imagining what is more comfortable for a native, the second option is easier because finding good databases of aspectual pairs in different languages seems to be close to impossible.

which leads to 2nd question :).

Do you know any ressource that present a decent amount of aspectual pairs (in Russian or other), or a tool that returns the perfective/imperfective verb when given the other form ? Anything to help me form pairs :).

Thanks a lot!

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Re: Aspectual pairs in language learning

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-02-28, 7:58

I'm learning both Russian and Serbian, and in both languages, I tend to find it useful to learn the imperfective and perfective forms in pairs.

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Re: Aspectual pairs in language learning

Postby h34 » 2016-03-03, 15:29

Mudskipper wrote:Do you know any ressource that present a decent amount of aspectual pairs (in Russian or other), or a tool that returns the perfective/imperfective verb when given the other form ? Anything to help me form pairs :).
http://masterrussian.com/vocabulary/common_verbs.htm This is a verb frequency list, so it's not in alphabetical order, but still useful if you want to concentrate on the most common verbs. For each imperfective verb, the perfective version is added and vice versa. For more details about conjugation, pronunciation, usage and related words you just need to click on the verb.

Of course most dictionaries mention the 'aspectual equivalent' (does that expression exist?):
http://translate.academic.ru/%D1%87%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C/ru/en/ (ru -> en)
http://enru.dict.cc/?s=read (en -> ru)
https://slovari.yandex.ru/%D1%87%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C/ru-en (ru -> en)
http://www.lexilogos.com/english/russian_dictionary.htm

Anyway, I'm no expert, just a (rather slow) learner...

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Re: Aspectual pairs in language learning

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-03-03, 19:07

Also, Wiktionary.


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