European vs. Brazilian

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby mōdgethanc » 2010-03-28, 2:29

You might find EP a little easier since it's more similar to Spanish in some ways.

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby JGreco » 2010-04-18, 3:56

In pronunciation, BP is actually closer in pronunciation than EP to Spanish.

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby mōdgethanc » 2010-04-18, 21:25

Neither is all that close, really.

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby JGreco » 2010-04-21, 0:57

Well coming from experience (my mother's Brazilian) she says that yes, for her she felt the pronunciation of Latin American Spanish felt more similar to Br.Portuguese than to Eu.Portuguese despite the differences.

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby ILuvEire » 2010-04-23, 3:12

Talib wrote:You might find EP a little easier since it's more similar to Spanish in some ways.

Phonetically, in my opinion at least, EP is much more difficult. Its similarities to Spanish are just in the lenition of voiced stops, other than that (especially vowel wise!) BP is easier. Lord, I love EP, but sometimes I think, that if I hear another random vowel reduced to a schwa, I'll just scream.

Of course, EP has the added advantage of sounding just especially sexy and Slavic. :blush:
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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby mōdgethanc » 2010-04-23, 15:45

EP also has /l/ where BP has [w], and some speakers use [r] where BP uses any one of [x], [χ], [h] and so on.

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby sergiolopes » 2010-08-05, 21:08

ILuvEire wrote: I love EP, but sometimes I think, that if I hear another random vowel reduced to a schwa, I'll just scream.

Just noticed this. :D We don't really have a schwa - which vowels are you referring to?
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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby ILuvEire » 2010-08-05, 23:11

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ILuvEire wrote: I love EP, but sometimes I think, that if I hear another random vowel reduced to a schwa, I'll just scream.

Just noticed this. :D We don't really have a schwa - which vowels are you referring to?

Yeah, I've learned that now, I meant /ɐ/ and /ɨ/ :P
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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby mōdgethanc » 2010-08-06, 1:06

Of course, EP has the added advantage of sounding just especially sexy and Slavic.
Não it doeshn't, it jusht shoundsh like Shpanish wish more shlurring.

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby mōdgethanc » 2010-08-06, 1:06

Of course, EP has the added advantage of sounding just especially sexy and Slavic.
Não it doeshn't, it jusht shoundsh like Shpanish wish more shlurring.

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby Stawrberry » 2010-08-06, 2:01

Talib wrote:Não it doeshn't, it jusht shoundsh like Shpanish wish more shlurring.


Was that supposed to be funny or are you just very ignorant? :ohwell:

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby mōdgethanc » 2010-08-06, 3:08

Shorry - it shoundsh wike Shpanish wish shlurring ãnd ugwy nãsaws.

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby ILuvEire » 2010-08-06, 4:29

Talib wrote:Shorry - it shoundsh wike Shpanish wish shlurring ãnd ugwy nãsaws.

Ah, nãsaws, you're talking about Brazilian Portuguese, it all makes sense.
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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby mōdgethanc » 2010-08-06, 4:52

Yeah, that's alsow why thewe awe so many wabiaws.

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby sergiolopes » 2010-08-06, 8:35

Stawrberry wrote:Was that supposed to be funny or are you just very ignorant? :ohwell:

What else do you expect from Talib?
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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby mōdgethanc » 2010-08-06, 22:00

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby E Pluribus Neo » 2012-03-10, 10:36

I just think going for both is bullshit. I f.e. learned the American English, because it's so widespread (songs, TV etc.), but I really like the "British" one. I know of a few differences like color/colour, chips or lorry, but I jsut can't do the accent. I just got stuck on the standard Midwestern American English with slight remnants of my own accent. It would be difficult and real waste of time learning it. It's like if I took on Slovak and began learning it. Why? I already understand it thoroughly. So IMHO pick just one.

P.S. Some people don't learn multiple languages, because they think they'll mistake on for the other (Italian/Spanish). That's not my case at least with these, but I think it would be hard for me to learn both Dutch/Afrikaans or English creoles. Btw. If I'll meet the opportunity to learn PT, I'll go for EP. I already have a book in it and Euronews also supports it.

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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby MoKangWei » 2012-11-05, 5:44

Pick one accent and stick with it. I have problems with the R, I mean, I just don't like how I pronounce it but it sounds unnatural when I change the way I say it.

Sometimes I wish we Brazilians would've kept the sound of L and didn't start using that "J" sound whenever a Di/Ti sound appears.

Also I wanted so bad to use the second person, plural and singular.
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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby Osias » 2012-11-05, 22:23

MoKangWei wrote:Also I wanted so bad to use the second person, plural and singular.


why? :hmm:
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Re: European vs. Brazilian

Postby MoKangWei » 2012-11-06, 1:56

osias wrote:
MoKangWei wrote:Also I wanted so bad to use the second person, plural and singular.


why? :hmm:


:silly: I like how they sound.
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