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Postby Cécile » 2005-08-15, 10:11

How do you say croatian in croatian?


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Postby Car » 2005-08-15, 10:31

Do these dictionary entries answer your question?
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Re: Croatian.

Postby kibo » 2005-08-15, 10:58

Cécile wrote:How do you say croatian in croatian?


hrvatski
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Postby Cécile » 2005-08-15, 15:29

Thanks a lot, Car and Bugi!!


And by the way... ok, I'm a little bit lazy 8) , I could look in our ressources but as you're here to answer all my questions... :wink:
:arrow: how do you pronounce -h in croatian???
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Postby Irrisim » 2005-08-15, 17:33

You can pronounce the Croatian h [x] or [h], that's an optional pronounciation. Just like the Hebrew r.

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Postby Cécile » 2005-08-15, 18:07

Thanks, Irrisim!

Ok, now my last question 8) :
:arrow: how do you pronounce Krk (it's the name of an island there)????
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Postby Car » 2005-08-15, 18:12

Cécile wrote:Ok, now my last question 8) :
:arrow: how do you pronounce Krk (it's the name of an island there)????


AFAIK (but you'd better wait for someone else to confirm it) you insert a schwa before the "r".

This pronunciation guide states the same.
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Postby Irrisim » 2005-08-15, 18:29

Krk is pronounced ['krk] you can't really tell if it's ['kerk] or another vowel, just try to pronounce ['krk] quickly.
Gees, I'm good 8)

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Postby Strigo » 2005-08-15, 18:39

I love words without vowels :D :D They're sexy LOL!

srpski krk hrvatski klamstw
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Postby Cécile » 2005-08-15, 18:49

Strigo wrote:srpski krk hrvatski klamstw


Does it mean somehting??
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Postby Strigo » 2005-08-15, 18:51

srpski : Serbian
hrvatski : Croatian
klamstwo : lie in Polish
krk : throat? I dunno
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Postby Irrisim » 2005-08-15, 18:53

So.. Srpski krk hrvatski klamstw = Serbian throat, Croatian lie in Polish.
Right?

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Postby kibo » 2005-08-15, 19:42

Cécile wrote: :arrow: how do you pronounce -h in croatian???
:arrow: how do you pronounce Krk (it's the name of an island there)????



I can't give answers in the field of phonetics, but I can record. 8)

hrvatski
krk

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Postby kibo » 2005-08-15, 19:58

Strigo wrote:srpski : Serbian
hrvatski : Croatian
klamstwo : lie in Polish
krk : throat? I dunno


Krk is the name of an island in Croatia, and I believe it indeed meant 'throat', but in the current language the word 'grlo' and 'grkljan' are used. (You see that they have the same origin)

Here are some words in Serbian that are composed only of consonatnts:

krv = blood
vrh = top
crv = worm
Grk = a Greek person
brk = moustache
crn = black
trn = thorn
vrt = garden

As you can see, the only consonant that can 'act' as a vowel is r.
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Postby Aszev » 2005-08-15, 20:12

Strigo wrote:I love words without vowels :D :D
Well, as r is a vowel in croatian, it isn't really vowelless :roll:
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Postby Cécile » 2005-08-15, 20:54

Thanks a lot, Bugi!
:burning: :burning: :burning:


In fact, I received a postcard from Croatia and on ths stamp, it was written "Republika Hrvatska" and on the picture, "Krk".Mystery... and then you resolved everything!
Thanks you all! You're all wonderful!
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Postby Malcolm » 2005-08-15, 21:01

Cécile wrote:Thanks you all! You're all wonderful!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Oh, stop it, you'll make me blush! :oops:
You're not too bad yourself!
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Postby Strigo » 2005-08-15, 21:07

Aszev wrote:
Strigo wrote:I love words without vowels :D :D
Well, as r is a vowel in croatian, it isn't really vowelless :roll:



Wohoho.... my Spanish mind cannot understand that.
R as a vowel?
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Postby Cécile » 2005-08-15, 21:11

Malcolm wrote:
Cécile wrote:Thanks you all! You're all wonderful!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Oh, stop it, you'll make me blush! :oops:


Hum, you concerned the ones who answered my question..
:twisted:

You're not too bad yourself!


Stop it boy, you'll make me blush!
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Postby CoBB » 2005-08-15, 21:29

Can't L behave as a vowel too?
Tanulni, tanulni, tanulni!

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