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Postby kibo » 2005-09-06, 11:11

Fenek wrote:I don't know the rules for using definite and indefinite forms of adjective in Serbian.


Frankly, I don't know them completely either. :oops:

Nemam nijedan avion.

Serbian is known for multiple negations, so in a negative sentence wherever you can, should put a negative word. :P Sometimes there can be 4-5 negations in only one phrase.

Nemam crveni cvet.

Imam dobrog druga.

Definite adjective aspect, but don't ask me why. :oops: I've noticed it is used very much with colours.

Imam bolesno grlo.

When -stan loses the 'a', it also loses the 't', so the pronunciation would be easier.

radostan - radosna - radosno
žalostan - žalosna - žalosno

Imamo bolesna grla.

Sam as the above.

Imam teške ispite.

ž must become voiceless before a voiceless consonant in writing too. ;)
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Postby kibo » 2005-09-06, 11:15

Fenek wrote:Kurs je vrlo dobar, ali kratak ;)


Znam. Potrudiću se da nađem vremena da ga nastavim, pošto vidim da još ima zainteresovanih osoba.

Da li ima nešto što bi posebno želeo naučiti sada? Svaki predlog je dobrodošao. ;)
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Postby Fenek » 2005-09-06, 12:16

Bugi wrote:Znam. Potrudiću se da nađem vremena da ga nastavim, pošto vidim da još ima zainteresovanih osoba.

Da li ima nešto što bi posebno želeo naučiti sada? Svaki predlog je dobrodošao. ;)


Nemam posebne želje ;)

It's interesting to note that you used the genitive after "ima" in the first sentence ("ima zainteresovanih osoba"). I guess "ima" is used in the sense of "there are" in that case, isn't it?
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Postby kibo » 2005-09-06, 13:58

Fenek wrote:
Bugi wrote:Znam. Potrudiću se da nađem vremena da ga nastavim, pošto vidim da još ima zainteresovanih osoba.

Da li ima nešto što bi posebno želeo naučiti sada? Svaki predlog je dobrodošao. ;)


Nemam posebne želje ;)

It's interesting to note that you used the genitive after "ima" in the first sentence ("ima zainteresovanih osoba"). I guess "ima" is used in the sense of "there are" in that case, isn't it?


Yes, but it's not that simple. As you said, the genitive with the verb to have is present in Polish, and that is the case with Serbian too, but there aren't any strict rules when to use it, there are a lot of exceptions.

The partitive genitive instead of accusative is used in many cases: in some negative contexts, in fixed expressions, in plural, when you use a certain modifiers and adjectives, when you need to emphasize that something is just a part of something, with some abstract nouns (like I don't have time = Nemam vremena, not Nemam vreme), and when you use the verb imati/nemati in that sense 'there is/are'. It depends from case to case. Sometimes both genitive and accusative is possible, with a minimal diference in meaning, like:

Imam vodu = I have water
Imam vode = I have some water

The second usage is partitive. Though I must confess that for me the difference in meaning is almost nonexistant.

Some people say that this usage of genitive is becoming archaic here, so maybe that's why.

Another thing, I would've said 'Nemam posebnih želja'. (Perhaps because the meaning is 'i don't have any particular wishes') ;)

Sorry, I didn't mean to make it so complicated
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Postby Fenek » 2005-09-06, 21:20

Hvala za objašnjenje! :)
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Postby jabalí » 2006-06-21, 10:04

great course =D

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Postby Æren » 2006-12-18, 14:00

hi
i studied serbian from http://serbianschool.com and i should say it is quite good tutorial :}

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Postby kibo » 2006-12-18, 18:34

welcome! :)

dobro došao! :)

добре дошъл! :)
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Postby deni » 2007-09-18, 19:38

Exercises 1A: Fill out the blancs in the following sentences. (either with the short form of the verb biti, or the corresponding personal pronoun.)

1. Ja sam Marko.
2. Mi smo tamo.
3. On i ona su u Srbiji.
4. Vi ste ovde.
5. Ti i ja smo prijatelji.
6. Ona je Marija.
7. Ti i Aleksandar ste u školi.
8. One su napolju.


Exercise 1B: Give these phrases a negative meaning.

1. Ja nisam kod kuce.
2. Ana nije odsutna.
3. Mi nismo u parku.
4. Marko i ti niste prijatelji.
5. Slika nije lepa.
6. Oni nisu dobri.

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Postby deni » 2007-09-18, 20:14

Exercises 2A: Translate into Serbian:

1. a young servant - mlad sluga
2. a beautifil house - lepa kuća
3. stupid things - glupe stvari
4. a salty sea - slano more
5. hardworking collegues - marljive kolege
6. young cats - mlade mačke

Exercise 2B: Rewrite the following phrases into plural

1. Učitelji je lepi.
2. Sudije je tihe
3. Knjige je nove
4. mi smo visoki
5. Kuće su velike

Exercise 2C: In order not to forget what we learnt in the past lesson, rewrite these phrases into the affirmative form:

1. Ja sam visok.
2. On je lep.
3. Mi smo ovde.
4. Majka je mlada.
5. One su jake.

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Postby deni » 2007-09-19, 17:35

Exercise 3A: Give the plural of these nouns

1. put - putevi (m. -ev-) = road
2. knjiga - knjige (f.) = book
3. plan - planovi (m. -ov-) = plan
4. radnik radnici (m.) = worker
5. krst krstovi (m. -ov-) = cross
6. jutro - jutra (morning) = morning
7. siromah siromasi (m) = a poor man
8. vuk - vukovi / vuci (m., double form) = wolf
9. duh - duhovi / dusi (m., double form) = ghost


Exercise 3B: Complete the following table

1. dobar - dobra - dobro (good)
2. ljubazan - ljubazna - ljubazno (polite)
3. dosadan - dosadna - dosadno (boring)
4. sitan - sitna - sitno (tiny)
5. tanak - tanka - tanko (thin)

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Postby deni » 2007-09-20, 2:55

Bolek wrote:Exercise 4A: Fill in the blanks with the affirmative form of the verb imati.
1. Ja ______
2. Oni ______
3. Mi ______
4. Ana ______
5. Ana i Bojan ______
6. Ti i ja ______
7. Vi ______
8. Ono ______
9. Ti ______




1. Ja imam
2. Oni imaju
3. Mi imamo
4. Ana ima
5. Ana i Bojan imaju
6. Ti i ja imamo
7. Vi imate
8. Ono ima
9. Ti imate

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Postby deni » 2007-09-20, 3:00

Bolek wrote:Exercise 4B: Choose 10 words form this list (or you can use also the words you know already), and make sentences with the meaning "I have ..." or "I don't have ...".

Avion - airplane
Bašta - garden
Bluza - blouse
Cvet - flower (-ov-)
Drug - friend (-ov-)
Flaša - bottle
Grlo - throat
Ispit - exam
Majka - mother
Mantil - coat
Most - bridge (-ov)
Olovka - pencil
Rad - work (-ov-)
Sveska - notebook
Svet - world (-ov-)
Učitelj - teacher




Ja neman avion
Ja nemam baštu
Ja nemam bluzu
Ja imam cvet
Ja imam drug
Ja imam flašu
Ja imam grlo
Ja imam ispit
Ja neman most
Ja neman ucitelj

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Postby deni » 2007-09-20, 3:03

Bolek wrote:Exercise 4C: Change those sentences from 4B into plural.




Ja nemam avione
Ja nemam bašte
Ja nemam bluze
Ja imam cvetove
Ja imam drugove
Ja imam flaše
Ja imam grla
Ja imam ispite
Ja nemam mostove
Ja nemam ucitelje



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Postby kibo » 2007-09-21, 17:31

Not much to correct just:

2B
1. Učitelji su lepi.
2. Sudije su tihe
3. Knjige su nove


4B
Ja imam druga
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Postby kibo » 2007-09-21, 17:37

Since this course is no longer active, and there are no plans to continued, this topic will be locked. It may be unlocked in the future.

The course can also be found on the Unilang Wiki:
http://home.unilang.org/wiki3/index.php/VSL_Serbian

The exercises were moved to the Unilang exercise centre which has automated correction mechanism, so there is no need to post them here.

All the questions or doubt about the Serbian language, grammar, vocabulary, pronunciation or orthography may be asked in the sticky topic [Serbian] Discussion Group - Q&A's

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