How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby Linguaphile » 2016-10-15, 18:43

JasleenKaur wrote:I am pronouncing Sa-cher-day is that right ?


I agree with the other people who have responded - there is no ch or tju in the word. I'm in the western United States and pronounce it sætərdeɪ (sat-er-day). The /t/ sound is pretty variable, depending on the speaker and how fast they are speaking: t̬/ɾ/d/t/tʰ (sadder-day, satter-day, etc). At times from other speakers I've also heard sætərdi (sat-er-dee), again with variable /t/.
Forvo has a variety of speakers pronouncing this word, and all of them sound fine and perfectly understandable (although it's quite obvious that they are from different regions of the English-speaking world). The last speaker uses the -di pronunciation at the end of the word, but -deɪ is more standard. I would say the first two examples on the Forvo site are closest to the way I pronounce the word myself, particularly the second one.
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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby OyVey » 2016-10-24, 14:41

/ˈsætədɪ/
I pronounce it with [dɪ] rather than [di] or [deɪ] usually. Same with Monday, Tuesday, etc.
I should have specified.

Ofc when I am pronouncing it slowly, I would pronounce it like "Sa-ter-day". When I say it at normal speed however then I'd pronounce it as "Sa-er-day"

So like dEhiN, I use /t/. So yes I do flap the "t". Hope that clarifies everything.
"Sa-er-day" Do you mean you flap the t or do you elide it?
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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby Eioaioai » 2016-10-29, 15:37

/ˈsætɚdeɪ̯/ but I normally realize it as [ˈsæː.ɾɚ.ɾeɪ̯] flapping both the "t" and the "d." Anyone else reduce both?
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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby linguoboy » 2016-10-29, 16:20

I'm pretty sure I never flap alveolar stops after [ɚ]. I just tried doing it now and it sounds quite odd to me.
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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby OyVey » 2016-10-30, 21:07

With a flapped /t/, does that lengthen the vowel?
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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby Michael » 2016-10-30, 22:59

In a prescribed setting, /ˈsæɾɚdeɪ̯/, but in conversation I most likely contract it to [ˈsæɾ͡ɹeɪ̯]. Does this seem plausible to any other of you North Americans?
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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby linguoboy » 2016-10-31, 2:28

OyVey wrote:With a flapped /t/, does that lengthen the vowel?

Perhaps for some speakers, but generally vowel length is preserved, leading to a phonetic distinction between /d/ and /t/ even with both are realised as [ɾ].

linguoboy wrote:I'm pretty sure I never flap alveolar stops after [ɚ]. I just tried doing it now and it sounds quite odd to me.

Now that I think of it, my father contracts irritable to [ˈiːɚ̯ɾɪ̈bɫˌ]. (As I child, I thought this was an entirely different word, which I mentally spelled eardible.)
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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby OyVey » 2016-10-31, 3:39

Michael wrote:In a prescribed setting, /ˈsæɾɚdeɪ̯/, but in conversation I most likely contract it to [ˈsæɾ͡ɹeɪ̯]. Does this seem plausible to any other of you North Americans?
What does the halo over the ɾ͡ɹ mean?
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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby Michael » 2016-10-31, 4:38

OyVey wrote:
Michael wrote:In a prescribed setting, /ˈsæɾɚdeɪ̯/, but in conversation I most likely contract it to [ˈsæɾ͡ɹeɪ̯]. Does this seem plausible to any other of you North Americans?
What does the halo over the ɾ͡ɹ mean?

I was trying to convey how I shoot straight for the rhotic consonant, a contraction of the rhotic vowel plus the second flap ("-ur+d-") of the "standard" GA pronunciation, immediately after the first flap ("-t-"), almost to the point of coarticulating them. Does that make it any clearer?
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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby Inky Scrolls » 2017-02-28, 20:18

Another alternative pronunciation if you're going for a British accent, akin to my own, is [ˈsaʔ.ɵ̆ˌdɨ]. This is regular conversation; careful speech would have instead [ˈsa.tˢʰə̆ˌdeːɪ̯].

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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby Babbsagg » 2017-02-28, 20:48

It's an interesting question, now that I think about it, I believe I use two different versions. When speaking distinctly, I'd say it's /ˈsatədeɪ/ but in more colloquial speech it's more like /ˈsaʔəde/. I can't be more specific because the complex phonetic script you people use is way over my head.
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Re: How do you pronounce "Saturday" ?

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-03-10, 3:09

I thought I said [ˈsæɾɹ̩dej], but I think I might actually say something more like [ˈsæɾɹ̩ɖej].


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