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Okay, Ian Curtis.Koko wrote:Excuse me,
While I kill myself *guitar*
Koko wrote:Excuse me,
While I kill myself *guitar*
Koko wrote:Wikipedia calls both New Order and U2 post-punk Maybe New Order started out as post-punk, and moved into new wave and later as synthpop.
When talking about the time period of around 1975-1985, "New Wave" and "synthpop" more or less mean the same thing. But I see New Wave as a subgenre of synthpop since in modern times it's spawned genres like electroclash, coldwave, etc. (These are not rock but electronic.) To me, New Wave is synth-driven pop from the 1980s. Synthpop as a term could refer to New Wave, or Krautrock, or a bunch of other things.linguoboy wrote:"New Wave" is just the commercial face of post-punk and "synthpop" is any pop music in which the dominant instrumentation is synthesiser. A lot of popular New Wave bands in the 80s played synthpop, but by no means all.
Soft Cell, the Human League and Yazoo hardly ever used guitar, if ever, from what I can recall (and I've listened to those bands a lot). Yellow Magic Orchestra and Kraftwerk were the same. The only synthpop artist I listen to regularly who used guitar prominently is David Bowie (during the period from Low to Let's Dance).As far as New Order goes, I think PCaL has more synth-driven songs overall than Low-Life, the album released two years later. After that, everything gets a lot more dance-oriented. But they're not one of the first New Wave bands I think of when you say "synthpop". That would be groups like Soft Cell, Human League, Depeche Mode, Thompson Twins, OMD, Yello, Yazoo, etc. (DM and especially Yello occasionally used guitar, but I think the others were all synth all the time.)
mōdgethanc wrote:When talking about the time period of around 1975-1985, "New Wave" and "synthpop" more or less mean the same thing.linguoboy wrote:"New Wave" is just the commercial face of post-punk and "synthpop" is any pop music in which the dominant instrumentation is synthesiser. A lot of popular New Wave bands in the 80s played synthpop, but by no means all.
mōdgethanc wrote:The only synthpop artist I listen to regularly who used guitar prominently is David Bowie (during the period from Low to Let's Dance).
Good point. I don't know most of those bands well, but I do know Blondie, Talking Heads, and the Police very well, and they definitely had a lot of guitar (Blondie used the synth as well, but the other two didn't really).linguoboy wrote:I disagree. Blondie, Talking Heads, The Vapours, The Romantics, Bow Wow Wow, Modern English, The Police, The Cure, Spandau Ballet, The Cars, and dozens of other bands are all universally considered "New Wave" and not one of them is "synthpop". The identification of "New Wave" with "synthpop" seems to be a peculiarly North American development from the mid-80s (generally recognised as the end of the "New Wave") onwards.
Parts of the Berlin Trilogy are pretty synth-heavy and don't have guitar. But it's too avant-garde to be pop.I would not consider Bowie synthpop at all at any stage of his career. His music has always been primarily guitar-driven, no matter how much Eno fiddled with it in the studio.
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