DelBoy wrote:(By the way, Linguoboy - páiste = child, not page (leathanach))
OED wrote:I. A boy or servant.
†1. A boy, a youth. Obs.
2. a. A boy or youth employed as the personal attendant and messenger of a person of high rank. Now hist. (Many pages were youths of high rank who were placed as attendants as part of their education.)
DelBoy wrote:Ah, sorry didn't think of that type of page (péitse in modern Irish, although, if I understand you right, I can see how páiste came from the same word).
Quevenois wrote:To me, the easiest Celtic language must be Welsh, for pronunciation and grammar. But it doesn't mean it's easy either! It's just relative!
Irish and Gaelic have declensions, a complicated spelling and pronunciation. But they are nicer than Welsh (in my own opinion!). They look and sound more "bewitching", like.
Katarinka wrote:I am an italian native speaker with basic english level. I am interested in learning Welsh, Irish or Scottisch Gaelic. Which one of those languages has the easiest grammar and pronunciation?
Sean of the Dead wrote:Also, which dialect/dialects are the farthest from English?
neoni wrote:welsh spelling is easier than gaelic's? are you all mad??
welsh spelling is easier than gaelic's? are you all mad??
YngNghymru wrote:neoni wrote:welsh spelling is easier than gaelic's? are you all mad??
Welsh is totally phonemic. Gaelic has lots of unnecessary consonants which Irish cuts down on quite a bit.
neoni wrote:i've only been doing welsh for a couple days, but i just can't get my head around the spelling. i don't remember having any problems with gaelic at all, though.
[The idea that Welsh spelling is completely logical, so that the pronunciation is easy] might be more kindly described as a convenient benevolent fiction, and it feels cruel to pick holes in such a comforting idea. Most people know that it’s not completely logical, but apart from the letter Y having two distinct pronunciations (sometimes roughly like English hit and sometimes more like hut) they take comfort in the fact that the spelling is pretty straightforward. So it is, more or less, until you start looking more closely at it, and then you realise that the fine detail is actually a lot more complex than you first thought – and there’s really not much advice available for those who want to understand thoroughly. But that’s for another day, and another webpage. . .
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