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Western Armenian

Postby n8an » 2017-07-11, 15:32

Is anybody learning Western Armenian? :D

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Re: Western Armenian

Postby linguoboy » 2017-07-11, 16:43

I gave it a shot many years ago, but I was stymied for lack of good materials. I learned the alphabet, some vocab, and some simple sentences.
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Re: Western Armenian

Postby n8an » 2017-07-12, 3:57

linguoboy wrote:I gave it a shot many years ago, but I was stymied for lack of good materials. I learned the alphabet, some vocab, and some simple sentences.


It's a shame.

I've found some good resources, but unless you have Armenian diaspora friends then you're pretty alone. There's basically zero TV or music produced in the Western dialect anymore, and listening to Eastern Armenian becomes quite confusing with the pronunciation and grammar.

I have Armenian friends who speak Western Armenian but they don't speak it very well and have no interest whatsoever in helping me learn. I was even "hanging out with" an Armenian who asked me to learn Armenian...but was completely helpless at helping me learn.

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Re: Western Armenian

Postby księżycowy » 2017-07-12, 14:50

I have some pretty good resources (imo) lying around my house. I have no idea if or when I will study it, but I have wanted to study Armenian (Eastern and Western) for a while now. Though I do have a slight preference to the Eastern dialect.

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Re: Western Armenian

Postby n8an » 2017-07-12, 15:07

księżycowy wrote:I have some pretty good resources (imo) lying around my house. I have no idea if or when I will study it, but I have wanted to study Armenian (Eastern and Western) for a while now. Though I do have a slight preference to the Eastern dialect.


There are definite advantages to learning Eastern.

Most of all - you can actually speak it in Armenia. You can also listen to Armenian music/watch Armenian TV. Linguistically, too, the Eastern dialect has a different pronunciation for every single letter, whereas Western combines some letters.

All three of those factors are really annoying me right now as I learn Western. I'm planning a trip to Armenia, and I know that I'll be stuck a lot of the time. I also hate that I don't have songs to sing along to. And the pronunciation differences are more annoying than I expected because I feel like I really struggle with spelling at times.

That being said, I do prefer the sound of Western Armenian. I also think Eastern Armenian is far too Russified. And not to forget - I really like the fact that I'm learning a language that is more or less dying with time, and I like to think that I'm helping keep it alive.

Also, all my Armenian friends speak Western.

It's still really annoying that I can't use apps like HelloTalk much because everybody there speaks Eastern Armenian.

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Re: Western Armenian

Postby księżycowy » 2017-07-12, 17:12

n8an wrote:I really like the fact that I'm learning a language that is more or less dying with time, and I like to think that I'm helping keep it alive.

I used to feel that way about studying Irish. Now I've kinda cooled off that opinion...

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Re: Western Armenian

Postby n8an » 2017-07-13, 16:39

księżycowy wrote:I used to feel that way about studying Irish. Now I've kinda cooled off that opinion...


Yeah, understandable.

I think if my friends spoke Eastern I wouldn't even consider Western, but all my friends are diaspora Armenians so... :para:

Even my friend who lives in Armenia speaks Western.

I do hope it pays off. I think I will get to understand Eastern because I'm trying to keep aware of the differences where possible and I will listen to music as much as possible.

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