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Postby Trapy » 2007-10-29, 23:30

my current 'Language of temporary interest'. meaning, I'll probably get bored of it, but it's interesting. The script isn't as blocky as chinese, but, other than the wikipedia article, i can't find much on it. Does anyone have links or long-lost bits of information on this?

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Re: Yi

Postby モモンガ » 2011-06-30, 16:39

That's really interesting stuff.
Sorry for visiting such an old thread, but if anyone knows where to find some resources...
the script looks really interesting.
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Re: Yi

Postby Reinder » 2011-06-30, 16:56

Wow, the script is special indeed, I will be learning Chinese first, haha, that's hard enough! ^^
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Re: Yi

Postby linguoboy » 2011-06-30, 18:54

Trapy wrote:my current 'Language of temporary interest'. meaning, I'll probably get bored of it, but it's interesting. The script isn't as blocky as chinese, but, other than the wikipedia article, i can't find much on it. Does anyone have links or long-lost bits of information on this?

I have an instructional book on Yi at home. It's in Chinese--I couldn't find anything comparable in any European language.
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Re: Yi

Postby księżycowy » 2011-07-02, 0:00

The minority languages of S. China seem to be quite popular lately.

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Re: Yi

Postby Luna_Lovegood » 2011-07-28, 18:16

Well, I think they (Languages of South East Asia) need more care.

I was able to get two books in Chinese on Yi!
And I have found something if you don't know Chinese:
http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Yi/contents.html
You may download the font from the omniglot website.
i have also found some video on Chinese video sharing websites, just search for 彝语
And this is the script.
ꀀ ꀁ ꀂ ꀃ ꀄ ꀅ ꀆ ꀇ ꀈ ꀉ ꀊ ꀋ ꀌ ꀍ ꀎ ꀏ
U+A01x ꀐ ꀑ ꀒ ꀓ ꀔ ꀕ ꀖ ꀗ ꀘ ꀙ ꀚ ꀛ ꀜ ꀝ ꀞ ꀟ
U+A02x ꀠ ꀡ ꀢ ꀣ ꀤ ꀥ ꀦ ꀧ ꀨ ꀩ ꀪ ꀫ ꀬ ꀭ ꀮ ꀯ
U+A03x ꀰ ꀱ ꀲ ꀳ ꀴ ꀵ ꀶ ꀷ ꀸ ꀹ ꀺ ꀻ ꀼ ꀽ ꀾ ꀿ
U+A04x ꁀ ꁁ ꁂ ꁃ ꁄ ꁅ ꁆ ꁇ ꁈ ꁉ ꁊ ꁋ ꁌ ꁍ ꁎ ꁏ
U+A05x ꁐ ꁑ ꁒ ꁓ ꁔ ꁕ ꁖ ꁗ ꁘ ꁙ ꁚ ꁛ ꁜ ꁝ ꁞ ꁟ
U+A06x ꁠ ꁡ ꁢ ꁣ ꁤ ꁥ ꁦ ꁧ ꁨ ꁩ ꁪ ꁫ ꁬ ꁭ ꁮ ꁯ
U+A07x ꁰ ꁱ ꁲ ꁳ ꁴ ꁵ ꁶ ꁷ ꁸ ꁹ ꁺ ꁻ ꁼ ꁽ ꁾ ꁿ
U+A08x ꂀ ꂁ ꂂ ꂃ ꂄ ꂅ ꂆ ꂇ ꂈ ꂉ ꂊ ꂋ ꂌ ꂍ ꂎ ꂏ
U+A09x ꂐ ꂑ ꂒ ꂓ ꂔ ꂕ ꂖ ꂗ ꂘ ꂙ ꂚ ꂛ ꂜ ꂝ ꂞ ꂟ
U+A0Ax ꂠ ꂡ ꂢ ꂣ ꂤ ꂥ ꂦ ꂧ ꂨ ꂩ ꂪ ꂫ ꂬ ꂭ ꂮ ꂯ
U+A0Bx ꂰ ꂱ ꂲ ꂳ ꂴ ꂵ ꂶ ꂷ ꂸ ꂹ ꂺ ꂻ ꂼ ꂽ ꂾ ꂿ
U+A0Cx ꃀ ꃁ ꃂ ꃃ ꃄ ꃅ ꃆ ꃇ ꃈ ꃉ ꃊ ꃋ ꃌ ꃍ ꃎ ꃏ
U+A0Dx ꃐ ꃑ ꃒ ꃓ ꃔ ꃕ ꃖ ꃗ ꃘ ꃙ ꃚ ꃛ ꃜ ꃝ ꃞ ꃟ
U+A0Ex ꃠ ꃡ ꃢ ꃣ ꃤ ꃥ ꃦ ꃧ ꃨ ꃩ ꃪ ꃫ ꃬ ꃭ ꃮ ꃯ
U+A0Fx ꃰ ꃱ ꃲ ꃳ ꃴ ꃵ ꃶ ꃷ ꃸ ꃹ ꃺ ꃻ ꃼ ꃽ ꃾ ꃿ
U+A10x ꄀ ꄁ ꄂ ꄃ ꄄ ꄅ ꄆ ꄇ ꄈ ꄉ ꄊ ꄋ ꄌ ꄍ ꄎ ꄏ
U+A11x ꄐ ꄑ ꄒ ꄓ ꄔ ꄕ ꄖ ꄗ ꄘ ꄙ ꄚ ꄛ ꄜ ꄝ ꄞ ꄟ
U+A12x ꄠ ꄡ ꄢ ꄣ ꄤ ꄥ ꄦ ꄧ ꄨ ꄩ ꄪ ꄫ ꄬ ꄭ ꄮ ꄯ
U+A13x ꄰ ꄱ ꄲ ꄳ ꄴ ꄵ ꄶ ꄷ ꄸ ꄹ ꄺ ꄻ ꄼ ꄽ ꄾ ꄿ
U+A14x ꅀ ꅁ ꅂ ꅃ ꅄ ꅅ ꅆ ꅇ ꅈ ꅉ ꅊ ꅋ ꅌ ꅍ ꅎ ꅏ
U+A15x ꅐ ꅑ ꅒ ꅓ ꅔ ꅕ ꅖ ꅗ ꅘ ꅙ ꅚ ꅛ ꅜ ꅝ ꅞ ꅟ
U+A16x ꅠ ꅡ ꅢ ꅣ ꅤ ꅥ ꅦ ꅧ ꅨ ꅩ ꅪ ꅫ ꅬ ꅭ ꅮ ꅯ
U+A17x ꅰ ꅱ ꅲ ꅳ ꅴ ꅵ ꅶ ꅷ ꅸ ꅹ ꅺ ꅻ ꅼ ꅽ ꅾ ꅿ
U+A18x ꆀ ꆁ ꆂ ꆃ ꆄ ꆅ ꆆ ꆇ ꆈ ꆉ ꆊ ꆋ ꆌ ꆍ ꆎ ꆏ
U+A19x ꆐ ꆑ ꆒ ꆓ ꆔ ꆕ ꆖ ꆗ ꆘ ꆙ ꆚ ꆛ ꆜ ꆝ ꆞ ꆟ
U+A1Ax ꆠ ꆡ ꆢ ꆣ ꆤ ꆥ ꆦ ꆧ ꆨ ꆩ ꆪ ꆫ ꆬ ꆭ ꆮ ꆯ
U+A1Bx ꆰ ꆱ ꆲ ꆳ ꆴ ꆵ ꆶ ꆷ ꆸ ꆹ ꆺ ꆻ ꆼ ꆽ ꆾ ꆿ
U+A1Cx ꇀ ꇁ ꇂ ꇃ ꇄ ꇅ ꇆ ꇇ ꇈ ꇉ ꇊ ꇋ ꇌ ꇍ ꇎ ꇏ
U+A1Dx ꇐ ꇑ ꇒ ꇓ ꇔ ꇕ ꇖ ꇗ ꇘ ꇙ ꇚ ꇛ ꇜ ꇝ ꇞ ꇟ
U+A1Ex ꇠ ꇡ ꇢ ꇣ ꇤ ꇥ ꇦ ꇧ ꇨ ꇩ ꇪ ꇫ ꇬ ꇭ ꇮ ꇯ
U+A1Fx ꇰ ꇱ ꇲ ꇳ ꇴ ꇵ ꇶ ꇷ ꇸ ꇹ ꇺ ꇻ ꇼ ꇽ ꇾ ꇿ
U+A20x ꈀ ꈁ ꈂ ꈃ ꈄ ꈅ ꈆ ꈇ ꈈ ꈉ ꈊ ꈋ ꈌ ꈍ ꈎ ꈏ
U+A21x ꈐ ꈑ ꈒ ꈓ ꈔ ꈕ ꈖ ꈗ ꈘ ꈙ ꈚ ꈛ ꈜ ꈝ ꈞ ꈟ
U+A22x ꈠ ꈡ ꈢ ꈣ ꈤ ꈥ ꈦ ꈧ ꈨ ꈩ ꈪ ꈫ ꈬ ꈭ ꈮ ꈯ
U+A23x ꈰ ꈱ ꈲ ꈳ ꈴ ꈵ ꈶ ꈷ ꈸ ꈹ ꈺ ꈻ ꈼ ꈽ ꈾ ꈿ
U+A24x ꉀ ꉁ ꉂ ꉃ ꉄ ꉅ ꉆ ꉇ ꉈ ꉉ ꉊ ꉋ ꉌ ꉍ ꉎ ꉏ
U+A25x ꉐ ꉑ ꉒ ꉓ ꉔ ꉕ ꉖ ꉗ ꉘ ꉙ ꉚ ꉛ ꉜ ꉝ ꉞ ꉟ
U+A26x ꉠ ꉡ ꉢ ꉣ ꉤ ꉥ ꉦ ꉧ ꉨ ꉩ ꉪ ꉫ ꉬ ꉭ ꉮ ꉯ
U+A27x ꉰ ꉱ ꉲ ꉳ ꉴ ꉵ ꉶ ꉷ ꉸ ꉹ ꉺ ꉻ ꉼ ꉽ ꉾ ꉿ
U+A28x ꊀ ꊁ ꊂ ꊃ ꊄ ꊅ ꊆ ꊇ ꊈ ꊉ ꊊ ꊋ ꊌ ꊍ ꊎ ꊏ
U+A29x ꊐ ꊑ ꊒ ꊓ ꊔ ꊕ ꊖ ꊗ ꊘ ꊙ ꊚ ꊛ ꊜ ꊝ ꊞ ꊟ
U+A2Ax ꊠ ꊡ ꊢ ꊣ ꊤ ꊥ ꊦ ꊧ ꊨ ꊩ ꊪ ꊫ ꊬ ꊭ ꊮ ꊯ
U+A2Bx ꊰ ꊱ ꊲ ꊳ ꊴ ꊵ ꊶ ꊷ ꊸ ꊹ ꊺ ꊻ ꊼ ꊽ ꊾ ꊿ
U+A2Cx ꋀ ꋁ ꋂ ꋃ ꋄ ꋅ ꋆ ꋇ ꋈ ꋉ ꋊ ꋋ ꋌ ꋍ ꋎ ꋏ
U+A2Dx ꋐ ꋑ ꋒ ꋓ ꋔ ꋕ ꋖ ꋗ ꋘ ꋙ ꋚ ꋛ ꋜ ꋝ ꋞ ꋟ
U+A2Ex ꋠ ꋡ ꋢ ꋣ ꋤ ꋥ ꋦ ꋧ ꋨ ꋩ ꋪ ꋫ ꋬ ꋭ ꋮ ꋯ
U+A2Fx ꋰ ꋱ ꋲ ꋳ ꋴ ꋵ ꋶ ꋷ ꋸ ꋹ ꋺ ꋻ ꋼ ꋽ ꋾ ꋿ
U+A30x ꌀ ꌁ ꌂ ꌃ ꌄ ꌅ ꌆ ꌇ ꌈ ꌉ ꌊ ꌋ ꌌ ꌍ ꌎ ꌏ
U+A31x ꌐ ꌑ ꌒ ꌓ ꌔ ꌕ ꌖ ꌗ ꌘ ꌙ ꌚ ꌛ ꌜ ꌝ ꌞ ꌟ
U+A32x ꌠ ꌡ ꌢ ꌣ ꌤ ꌥ ꌦ ꌧ ꌨ ꌩ ꌪ ꌫ ꌬ ꌭ ꌮ ꌯ
U+A33x ꌰ ꌱ ꌲ ꌳ ꌴ ꌵ ꌶ ꌷ ꌸ ꌹ ꌺ ꌻ ꌼ ꌽ ꌾ ꌿ
U+A34x ꍀ ꍁ ꍂ ꍃ ꍄ ꍅ ꍆ ꍇ ꍈ ꍉ ꍊ ꍋ ꍌ ꍍ ꍎ ꍏ
U+A35x ꍐ ꍑ ꍒ ꍓ ꍔ ꍕ ꍖ ꍗ ꍘ ꍙ ꍚ ꍛ ꍜ ꍝ ꍞ ꍟ
U+A36x ꍠ ꍡ ꍢ ꍣ ꍤ ꍥ ꍦ ꍧ ꍨ ꍩ ꍪ ꍫ ꍬ ꍭ ꍮ ꍯ
U+A37x ꍰ ꍱ ꍲ ꍳ ꍴ ꍵ ꍶ ꍷ ꍸ ꍹ ꍺ ꍻ ꍼ ꍽ ꍾ ꍿ
U+A38x ꎀ ꎁ ꎂ ꎃ ꎄ ꎅ ꎆ ꎇ ꎈ ꎉ ꎊ ꎋ ꎌ ꎍ ꎎ ꎏ
U+A39x ꎐ ꎑ ꎒ ꎓ ꎔ ꎕ ꎖ ꎗ ꎘ ꎙ ꎚ ꎛ ꎜ ꎝ ꎞ ꎟ
U+A3Ax ꎠ ꎡ ꎢ ꎣ ꎤ ꎥ ꎦ ꎧ ꎨ ꎩ ꎪ ꎫ ꎬ ꎭ ꎮ ꎯ
U+A3Bx ꎰ ꎱ ꎲ ꎳ ꎴ ꎵ ꎶ ꎷ ꎸ ꎹ ꎺ ꎻ ꎼ ꎽ ꎾ ꎿ
U+A3Cx ꏀ ꏁ ꏂ ꏃ ꏄ ꏅ ꏆ ꏇ ꏈ ꏉ ꏊ ꏋ ꏌ ꏍ ꏎ ꏏ
U+A3Dx ꏐ ꏑ ꏒ ꏓ ꏔ ꏕ ꏖ ꏗ ꏘ ꏙ ꏚ ꏛ ꏜ ꏝ ꏞ ꏟ
U+A3Ex ꏠ ꏡ ꏢ ꏣ ꏤ ꏥ ꏦ ꏧ ꏨ ꏩ ꏪ ꏫ ꏬ ꏭ ꏮ ꏯ
U+A3Fx ꏰ ꏱ ꏲ ꏳ ꏴ ꏵ ꏶ ꏷ ꏸ ꏹ ꏺ ꏻ ꏼ ꏽ ꏾ ꏿ
U+A40x ꐀ ꐁ ꐂ ꐃ ꐄ ꐅ ꐆ ꐇ ꐈ ꐉ ꐊ ꐋ ꐌ ꐍ ꐎ ꐏ
U+A41x ꐐ ꐑ ꐒ ꐓ ꐔ ꐕ ꐖ ꐗ ꐘ ꐙ ꐚ ꐛ ꐜ ꐝ ꐞ ꐟ
U+A42x ꐠ ꐡ ꐢ ꐣ ꐤ ꐥ ꐦ ꐧ ꐨ ꐩ ꐪ ꐫ ꐬ ꐭ ꐮ ꐯ
U+A43x ꐰ ꐱ ꐲ ꐳ ꐴ ꐵ ꐶ ꐷ ꐸ ꐹ ꐺ ꐻ ꐼ ꐽ ꐾ ꐿ
U+A44x ꑀ ꑁ ꑂ ꑃ ꑄ ꑅ ꑆ ꑇ ꑈ ꑉ ꑊ ꑋ ꑌ ꑍ ꑎ ꑏ
U+A45x ꑐ ꑑ ꑒ ꑓ ꑔ ꑕ ꑖ ꑗ ꑘ ꑙ ꑚ ꑛ ꑜ ꑝ ꑞ ꑟ
U+A46x ꑠ ꑡ ꑢ ꑣ ꑤ ꑥ ꑦ ꑧ ꑨ ꑩ ꑪ ꑫ ꑬ ꑭ ꑮ ꑯ
U+A47x ꑰ ꑱ ꑲ ꑳ ꑴ ꑵ ꑶ ꑷ ꑸ ꑹ ꑺ ꑻ ꑼ ꑽ ꑾ ꑿ
U+A48x ꒀ ꒁ ꒂ ꒃ ꒄ ꒅ ꒆ ꒇ ꒈ ꒉ ꒊ ꒋ ꒌ
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Re: Yi

Postby ceid donn » 2011-07-28, 19:34

Wow. That's a fascinating script. I'm never ceased to be amazed at the diversity of human language.

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Postby księżycowy » 2011-07-31, 20:53

Luna_Lovegood wrote:Well, I think they (Languages of South East Asia) need more care.

Indeed. There are many languages in need of 'more care.' :wink:

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Postby Chekhov » 2011-07-31, 21:57

The minority languages of S. China seem to be quite popular lately.
They are? With whom?
Well, I think they (Languages of South East Asia) need more care.
Not even the major ones are very popular here.
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Chekhov wrote:
The minority languages of S. China seem to be quite popular lately.
They are? With whom?

Hell yeah! Where have you been! Everyone wants to learn some Yi! :P

I was just referencing a few threads on those languages being created/active. I know they're not very popular. But as I've always said, fuck popularity. It's too chic.
Well, I think they (Languages of South East Asia) need more care.
Not even the major ones are very popular here.

I've noticed that as well.

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Postby Chekhov » 2011-07-31, 23:41

Considering the state of countries like Burma or Laos I don't blame though, although I'd think at least a few people would want to learn Vietnamese or Thai.
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Postby księżycowy » 2011-07-31, 23:49

You'd think. But this will hardly stop me from learning any Asian languages.

Not that Yi is among them. :whistle:
I guess I just like supporting the under-dogs around here.

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Postby Chekhov » 2011-08-01, 0:15

I back the winning horse. Why? Because language is a contest. Always. Winning.
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Which is was makes it even sweeter when the under-dog wins. :twisted:

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Postby Kasuya » 2011-08-01, 1:25

księżycowy wrote:Which is was makes it even sweeter when the under-dog wins. :twisted:

The underdog rarely wins in this game. The major languages of today are for the most part the major languages of 100 years ago.

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Postby księżycowy » 2011-08-01, 1:28

Indeed.
Can't a guy dream though? :lol:
Plus I'm just kidding around anyway. Back to topic, perhaps?

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Re: Yi

Postby Chekhov » 2011-08-01, 4:43

The language gods have answered our prayers!
Linguistic14 wrote:Hi guys.
The reason I started to study Korean was because of a big goal I wanted. The big goal was to learn all of the South Eastern Asian Language. Currently I have learned Japanese from my mom who was born from Japan, Chinese from an online class and Korean (by self teaching). Other than those three, I am trying to learn Thai and Vietnamese.
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Awesome.

[South-East? Korean?]

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Re: Yi

Postby Luna_Lovegood » 2011-08-02, 18:33

Talking about minority languages, i have found wonderful website, ishare sina, if you know Chinese they have some interesting language book, on Chinese minority languages, Uighur Hmong and stuff,


Talking about the lack of interest in Sout hEast Asia, well I meant generally this region, for me more like SOuth of China, I would liek to learn languages like Burmse etc, but all of those countries under China have really complicated writtign systems, I am afraid It's too hard to learn....


Yi cannot be called easy too, well.


According to Omniglot it's the biggest syllabary.


And they use it actually unlike Zhuang Logogram,

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Re: Yi

Postby Luna_Lovegood » 2011-08-07, 20:30

Yi dictionary!
Works with English and Chinese!

OK, I have been playing with Yi a little, they use around 600 characters, in modern Yi, in older one they used logographic script, not they use the signs phonetically only.

So, the basic word order is

SOV

The language is said to be closely related to Burmese, I don't know any Tibeto-Burman language (their scripts are quite hard), but I am seeing first time isolating language with such a word order.

The wast majority of resources teaches 凉山 dialect (cold mountains)。

Spoken officially in Liangshan county.


unlike Chinese it seems to have some conjugations, I think Burmese has also something like this.

the word for "my" is different from "I" , unlike Chinese.



As it belongs to the same language family as Chinese , some words are similar.

I = nga ꉢ (look Cantonese ngo5)
it's a tonal language of course.
it uses letters like Zhuang to express the tones, in Latin transcription of course, as when writting with the syllabary each syllable and each tone has separate sign.


OK, so I learned that

ꉢꆏꂘ nga ne hmat.
I am teaching you.

literally: I you teach.

ne is quite like Chinese ni as you can see.
You will have to learn each sign individually.
no shortcut.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVwt87HogHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6lowgFLEOg&feature=related
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