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Re: Yi

Postby Luna_Lovegood » 2011-08-12, 16:54

Ready to learn some Nuosu?

Lesson number 2.


Nuosu, like other East Asian language uses measure words.
If you are not East Asian, well, actually English and other languages use it too, only less frequently.
Think of a word "water" you cannot make it plural, it's uncountable.
but you may say

two buckets of water.
two glasses of wine.

bucket and glass are here measure words, but in Nuosu they are used much more frequently.

East Asian languages (maybe not Vietnamese) generally don't use plural and singular distinction as often as Europeans and Afro-Asiats (Arabic, Hebrew etc).
so.

ma means dog in Zhuang, it has no plural, it's just ma, you don't know how many dogs, it can be one dog, or it can be even 3043 dogs.
If you want to specify you just use the number with the measure word.

Unfortunately you will have to remember some measure words.





In Nuosu, saying things lyk "this book", things are a little tricky, it's the other way than Chinese way and Vietnamese way.
Chinese say This volume book, Vietnamese say Volume book this (quon sach nay), and Nuosu people use








Book this volume


let's try it!
ꊿꋋꂷ
co cyx ma.
This person.


ꊿ - person
ꋋ - this
ꂷ - classifier

it seems that ma is general classifier,you may use like Mandarin ge.


If you are Yi speaker, you are welcome to correct me, as i am not even a beginner, I am just showing what I have learned, and it's a language that is unlike the other things i know,so I am apt to make some mistakes.
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Re: Yi

Postby ruusukaali » 2011-08-13, 2:45

Oh I was interested in this language for a little while too b/c of the script :-)) There's really no resources for it though.

Videos:
How to pronounce
Vocab words (+ taught by a sweet old grandma lady :3 ) ("Please study Yi language and character seriously!" awwww :'''D )

More vocab!:
600 phrases in Yi
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Re: Yi

Postby Luna_Lovegood » 2011-08-13, 19:03

Well, there are some book on it in Chinese...
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Re: Yi

Postby モモンガ » 2011-08-28, 12:11

Nuosu girl.
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Nuosu lesson 3

To be updated


ꌧꈿ syp mgep - meeting
ꋍ cyp - one
ꐋꀨ qop bop - friend
ꆏ ne - you (singular)
ꇿꇬ kat go - where
ꀀ it - to live
ꊿ co - person
ꉢ nga - I
ꌧꍧ syp chuo - Sichuan
ꑞꈚ xix ggat - where
ꌠ su - nominalizer
ꆃꎭ niep sha - Liangshan
ꑤ xiep - province
ꑞ xix -which
ꇬ go - place
ꉬnge - to be
ꆹ li - to be
ꂿꈫ mo ggux - Meigu
ꑴꀞyip bat - isn't it?
ꉙ hxop - language
ꌧ syp - to know






qop bop, ne kat it su?
nga syp chuo it su
syp chuo xix ggat it su?
niep sha it su
ne xiep xix
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Re: Yi

Postby モモンガ » 2011-08-28, 17:24

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Well it takes a lot of time to make a lesson,
I have to copy each character from the web.
Anyway, I think I can tell I was not right telling that the characters have no relation with each other.
well, they have.

we have 4 tones,


middle

high

falling

rising

middle has no sign, high is marked by letter t, rising (21) is has x
and this x, is marked as a dash on a middle tone character.

falling 45 is marked by p letter.


y - this sound in onset, is pronunced like Polish ź, not like y.

but on the outset it's more silimar to i .

so yy is not pronounced ii but zi or something like this.

ꀕ is used for reduplication (first character turns into x tone, and the second one (marked by ꀕ) is in middle one.
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Re: Yi

Postby księżycowy » 2017-03-21, 20:01

This thread has been dead for a while now, but just incase there is anyone who stumbles upon it, or is currently a memeber and (still) interested, I've found a teaching grammar in something other than Chinese!

And a web dictionary too!


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