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The Owl and the Pussy-cat - to be translated into Jamtlandic

Postby pimpoapo » 2008-04-01, 14:57

Hi,

I'm looking for a translation of the Owl and the Pussy-cat by Edward Lear on behalf of my friend who is making a collection of this poem in as many languages as he can, just for fun. He's 97-year-old and this hobby gives him a great pleasure.

The Owl and the Pussy-cat

I

The Owl and the Pussy-cat went to sea
In a beautiful pea green boat,
They took some honey, and plenty of money,
Wrapped up in a five pound note.
The Owl looked up to the stars above,
And sang to a small guitar,
'O lovely Pussy! O Pussy my love,
What a beautiful Pussy you are,
You are,
You are!
What a beautiful Pussy you are!'

II

Pussy said to the Owl, 'You elegant fowl!
How charmingly sweet you sing!
O let us be married! too long we have tarried:
But what shall we do for a ring?'
They sailed away, for a year and a day,
To the land where the Bong-tree grows
And there in a wood a Piggy-wig stood
With a ring at the end of his nose,
His nose,
His nose,
With a ring at the end of his nose.

III

'Dear pig, are you willing to sell for one shilling
Your ring?' Said the Piggy, 'I will.'
So they took it away, and were married next day
By the Turkey who lives on the hill.
They dined on mince, and slices of quince,
Which they ate with a runcible spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand,
They danced by the light of the moon,
The moon,
The moon,
They danced by the light of the moon.


He started about a year ago and we managed to get it in more than 40 languages so far. Because we are running out of resources I decided to ask help from communities who dedicated to different languages.
It doesn't need to be a professional translation.

Here's a website that I started to set up to share all the translations that we've got so far. Some of them was made by poets but most of them just by friends or people who we run into in different places (waiters of the local restaurant, nurses from hospital, etc). They did the best they could and they just did it for fun and because they wanted to add their own language to this collection.

http://pimpoapo.itrello.com/bompa/

The site is under construction, at the moment just a flash version available.

Here is the list of the languages that we've got so far (01/04/2008):

Afrikaans, Basque, Bulgarian, Catalan, Chinese, Danish, Dutch, Esperanto, Estonian, Finnish, French, Frisian, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Italian, Irish Gaelic, Korean, Kyrgyz, Latin, Lithuanian, Macedonian, Malagasy, Norvegian Bokmål, Norwegian Nynorsk, Polish, Portuguese, Portuguese (Brazilian), Romanian, Russian, Slovenian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog (Pilipino), Thai, Turkish, Welsh

If you could translate it into Jamtlandic that would be a great help for us.
For exchange I always mention who did the translation at the end of the poem and if you wish it can be linked to your website or email address.

Thanks again for anyone who will help us.

-=Pimpoapo=-

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Postby Hunef » 2008-04-02, 20:11

I'll lock this. I think this should be in the Translations Forum, since you've flooded most languages' forum with your rquest. :)
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Cows

Postby Bokkjen » 2008-07-11, 18:06

Hunef, do you know why there are several words for cows? I mean kynnan, kyr, kuan.

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Postby Aleco » 2008-07-11, 18:20

Kyr is the Norwegian word at least. Wouldn't kuan and kynnan be the plural definite form?

(Of course you know what you're talking about - how come those two last words are plural?)
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Re: Jamtlandic (Jamsk'/Jamske)

Postby ILuvEire » 2009-04-20, 23:02

Why is this stickied? Or is it?
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Re: Jamtlandic (Jamsk'/Jamske)

Postby Nukalurk » 2009-04-21, 16:52

Maybe because it had an own forum section for a while.

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Re: Jamtlandic (Jamsk'/Jamske)

Postby ILuvEire » 2009-04-22, 4:23

Amikeco wrote:Maybe because it had an own forum section for a while.

Oh, really? Sorry then.
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Re: Jamtlandic (Jamsk'/Jamske)

Postby Sean of the Dead » 2009-04-22, 19:17

And they took away Luxembourgish, which I want to learn. :evil: :(
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Re: Cows

Postby Hunef » 2011-05-21, 2:00

Bokkjen wrote:Hunef, do you know why there are several words for cows? I mean kynnan, kyr, kuan.
Of course, "kyr" comes from Old Norse kýr (='cows').

The word "kynnan" comes from Old Norse kýrnar (='the cows' with plural definte ending -nar added) where rn has become nn and -ar has become -"an" since all other non-neuter nouns are declined that way in plural definite.

Finally, "kuan" (='the cows') is just a modern form where ku (='cow') gets an added -"an". I don't like this form, "kynnan" is to prefer since it's more faithful to Old Norse.
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Re: Jamtlandic (Jamsk'/Jamske)

Postby Heimdal » 2011-07-14, 18:53

Sorry if this is a repost.

A time ago "språkteigen", a radio show about language, had a episode about jamtsk. Here is the link

Jemtene sier ku, svenskene sier ko. Jemtene sier bein, svenskene sier ben. Dialekten som snakkes i Jämtland er norsk, ikke svensk, mener språkforsker Bo Oscarsson. Sammen med språkforsker ved NTNU, Tor Erik Jenstad, forteller han om likhetene mellom trøndersk og jemtsk.


Link (norwegian)

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Re: Jamtlandic (Jamsk'/Jamske)

Postby Magnus Petersson » 2012-03-24, 5:45

"Moves Like Jagger" in Jamtlandic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6S0Eb9Nk8s

"Last Friday Night" in Jamtlandic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBcb9FVZhVw

Enjoy! :)

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Re: Jamtlandic (Jamsk'/Jamske)

Postby paul234 » 2012-05-30, 5:13

Since the early 20th century it's been wildly debated if Jamtlandic is a dialect or a language. Proponents of Jamtlandic as a language point to the differences in vocabulary & pronunciation. A great percentage of the Jamtish speakers recognise Jamtish as a language than a Swedish dialect. There's been efforts to make the Swedish government recognise it as a minority language as the Yiddish & Sami languages have been. of the more prominent people that have been active in the work to make Jamtish a recognised language is Bo Oscarsson. Oscarsson has written books about the Jamtish language/dialect & even compiled dictionaries.

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Re: Jamtlandic (Jamsk'/Jamske)

Postby TeneReef » 2014-11-17, 1:46

Magnus Petersson wrote:"Moves Like Jagger" in Jamtlandic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6S0Eb9Nk8s

"Last Friday Night" in Jamtlandic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBcb9FVZhVw

Enjoy! :)

Sounds like Nynorsk spoken with Trondsk pronunciation
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Re:

Postby Niwde » 2016-05-11, 18:19

Hunef wrote:BTW, Bokkjen, do you have some knowledge in making on-line accessible databases (e.g. MySQL-to-php)? Me and a Jamtlandic friend are thinking about putting up a Jamtlandic dictionary accessible on the Internet. Compare with e.g. this site (a net dictionary for the peculiar Norwegian Valle dialect). We're having the interface of the Oxford English Dictionary - accessible here (though a subscription is needed) - as a role model.

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