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Postby lourdes » 2006-11-21, 5:13

well i guess butterfly would be 'batafly' and copper would be 'kopa' .

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Postby ego » 2006-11-21, 7:59

I think F is not found in Tok Pisin, so perhaps bataplai

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Postby Cutu » 2006-11-22, 17:27

Tenkyu tumas for the lessons, mi luvim tokpisin .

btw, here is a nice vocabulary for pigin / creolo words :
http://www.june29.com/HLP/lang/pidgin.html

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Postby toksave » 2006-11-24, 21:49

wow, great to see this forum is active again :D... and i had a weird dream last night involving Tokpisin :P lol

well, tenkyu tru olgeta long kam long dispela forum... :)

mi hamamas tru ^^

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About this language

Postby Benjamin » 2007-04-18, 16:25

Sorry about my ignorants but I have never heard of this language. :?

What country is this spoken in?

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Postby juronjaure » 2007-04-18, 16:41

I've never heard about it either, but just ask mr. google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tok_Pisin
It's acreole language spoken in Papua New Guinea.

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Basic Tok Pisin pdf File

Postby Danci » 2007-05-21, 14:13

Hey guys! Mi gat wanpela pdf file long tok pisin. Tasol, mi no gat link long as bilong em.
So, mi bai salim long e-mail long yu, sapos yu bai askim long mi.

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Corrections are gladly accepted :D

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Words of encouragement

Postby lyric » 2007-06-06, 14:30

Hello Tok Pisin speakers,

Your help is needed to complete the list of words of encouragement: http://home.unilang.org/wiki3/index.php ... ouragement

i.e. words you say to yourself or others when trying to accomplish a hard task,
like for example learning a new language :wink:.

Examples: "You can make it.", "Go-ahead! ", "Go!"

How do you say in Tok Pisin?

(When possible in original script and English transcript)

Thanks,
Lyric

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Postby mymasalai » 2007-11-20, 3:19

Tok Pisin isused in PNG, Solomon Islands, & Vanuatu, however the latter two use a variation slightly more like english. The Ni Vanuatu call it Bislama. They also speak French & English but express delight when a visitor speaks in Tok Pisin

Papua New Guinea has in regular use some 600 languages,

The PNG "standard was derived from the needs of the colonial Germans (Pre WW1) to communicate with local labourers, so some words with German roots may be found.

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Translation of one song

Postby cegiela » 2008-01-22, 19:05

Hello everyone!

This time I'd like to ask for a translation of the song into Tok Pisin.
The text to be translated is:

I am an atomic waste

No one loves me
No one likes me
No one respects me
No one wants me

I am ugly
I am disgusting
I am hideous
I am dirty


I'd be cordially thankful also for an IPA transcription, if it is not a problem for you.
You might visit our website with yet over 70 language versions of this song:
http://kolczyki.php5.cz/atom.html
Cheers,
Lukasz Cegiela

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Postby sepikmeri » 2008-01-31, 1:25

hey toksave, thanks for the tips.. mi bin kam long png 5pela month behain na mi lainim tok pisim wantaim sampela meri bilong png. mi lukim online long painim narapela wontok na sapos mi lainim moa long ol! i noticed someone was asking about "translation" --it's "tainim tok" according to my national friends :)

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Postby Abavagada » 2008-02-13, 19:55

I've been trying to turn Toksave's course here into a "for Beginners" course, but I am having problem understanding one piece of logic involving the verb tenses and the predicate marker "i".

Jon i bin wok asde = John worked yesterday.
Jon bai i wok tumora = John will work tomorrow.

These make sense. But:
Jon i wok i stap nau = John is working now.

Why is the order of verb tense marker (stap) and verb (wok) reversed, with TWO predicate markers?
Why not just:
Jon i stap wok nau :?:

Can anyone explain this clearly?

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Postby Abavagada » 2008-02-15, 18:23

I've taken the course, formatted it, and added in some stuff. I have no knowledge of Tok Pisin on my own, so I can't be sure everything is correct. I would appreciate anyone looking it over and telling me any corrections, suggestions, and comments. Thanks.

http://www.abavagada.net/tokpisin/learn ... n_en1.html

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Postby ego » 2008-02-15, 18:32

I've forgotten almost all my TP but I'm sure I've never encountered "tupela" and "tripela". Nor do I remember phrases like "mi stap wanpela man". I always thought this would be "mi wanpela man".

Who told you that "kaikai" comes from Maori? Kai is the common verb in most Pacific languages meaning "to eat". In Tongan too and I guess in the Malayopolynesian languages of PNG as well

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Postby Abavagada » 2008-02-15, 18:55

ego wrote:I've forgotten almost all my TP but I'm sure I've never encountered "tupela" and "tripela". Nor do I remember phrases like "mi stap wanpela man". I always thought this would be "mi wanpela man".

Who told you that "kaikai" comes from Maori? Kai is the common verb in most Pacific languages meaning "to eat". In Tongan too and I guess in the Malayopolynesian languages of PNG as well


The "tupela" and "tripela" come from the chart on this page, as does the "kaikai" description of being Maori:

http://www.nvtc.gov/lotw/months/january ... .html#stru

The usage of "stap" was introduced in the second lesson that Toksave posted in this thread:

i am a kid = mi stap wanpela pikinini

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Postby ego » 2008-02-15, 19:08

I still think that saying that kaikai comes from Maori is absurd and has no logical basis. It could come from any Malayopolynesian language and many of them are spoken close or inside PNG, unlike Maori.

I had a TP native on my MSN list but not anymore :(

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Postby Abavagada » 2008-02-15, 19:17

ego wrote:I still think that saying that kaikai comes from Maori is absurd and has no logical basis. It could come from any Malayopolynesian language and many of them are spoken close or inside PNG, unlike Maori.

I had a TP native on my MSN list but not anymore :(


I CAN remove that one little sentence, ego. :) It won't hurt the course.

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Postby ego » 2008-02-15, 19:23

Abavagada wrote:
ego wrote:I still think that saying that kaikai comes from Maori is absurd and has no logical basis. It could come from any Malayopolynesian language and many of them are spoken close or inside PNG, unlike Maori.

I had a TP native on my MSN list but not anymore :(


I CAN remove that one little sentence, ego. :) It won't hurt the course.

Erik / Aba


Don't remove it because of me. I'm no specialist, just saying my opinion

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Postby Abavagada » 2008-02-15, 19:28

ego wrote:
Abavagada wrote:
ego wrote:I still think that saying that kaikai comes from Maori is absurd and has no logical basis. It could come from any Malayopolynesian language and many of them are spoken close or inside PNG, unlike Maori.

I had a TP native on my MSN list but not anymore :(


I CAN remove that one little sentence, ego. :) It won't hurt the course.

Erik / Aba


Don't remove it because of me. I'm no specialist, just saying my opinion


Well, I'm even less of a specialist, knowing nothing of it all, so if you feel it's incorrect, I will gladly remove it.

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Postby Abavagada » 2008-02-22, 23:24

I've ported Tok Pisin into the new site layout.

http://dev.unilang.org/course.php?id=tpi1_en

If anyone has any corrections to make to it, please let me know.

Thanks to everyone for their help, and to Toksave especially for starting the course.

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