wythnos diwethaf - exception of mutation rules?

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wythnos diwethaf - exception of mutation rules?

Postby yggdrasil » 2011-11-01, 17:59

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Several times I encountered the word combination wythnos diwethaf. It is known that wythnos is feminine. Why diwethaf then does not mutate? It seems that feminine adjectives resist mutation after -s. Another example is nos da.

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Re: wythnos diwethaf - exception of mutation rules?

Postby YngNghymru » 2011-11-01, 18:11

Yeah, nos is a slightly odd exception. Sometimes things mutate after it, sometimes they don't - particularly in set phrases like this. You will hear wsnos ddwytha and dialectalisms like that, though.
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Re: wythnos diwethaf - exception of mutation rules?

Postby yggdrasil » 2011-11-01, 18:47

YngNghymru wrote:Yeah, nos is a slightly odd exception. Sometimes things mutate after it, sometimes they don't - particularly in set phrases like this. You will hear wsnos ddwytha and dialectalisms like that, though.


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Re: wythnos diwethaf - exception of mutation rules?

Postby Prosper_Youplaboum » 2011-11-01, 21:48

Is it because "sdd" is too hard to pronounce?
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Re: wythnos diwethaf - exception of mutation rules?

Postby YngNghymru » 2011-11-02, 2:39

No.
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Re: wythnos diwethaf - exception of mutation rules?

Postby linguoboy » 2011-11-02, 13:21

Prosper_Youplaboum wrote:Is it because "sdd" is too hard to pronounce?

For whom?

ETA: The other issue with this explanation is that this irregularity is lexical, not morphophonological. That is, if it were solely an issue of /s/ coming together with /ð/, you would expect to see similar behaviour from other feminines ending in /s/. But you don't. Cf. ffos ddofn "deep trench", rhos ddu "black moor", etc. It's only nos and its compounds which behave exceptionally.
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