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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby Formiko » 2010-12-02, 22:49

księżycowy wrote:Hate to keep bugging you Formiko :P
But I was curious if I got the right verbs forms here:
kshas - I make/create
raié:wate - He gets up early
ieié:wate - She gets up early


Not a problem...I'll check it out soon
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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2010-12-02, 23:39

Formiko wrote:
księżycowy wrote:Hate to keep bugging you Formiko :P
But I was curious if I got the right verbs forms here:
kshas - I make/create
raié:wate - He gets up early
ieié:wate - She gets up early


Not a problem...I'll check it out soon

Thanks. And no rush. I know the rest of you have lives. :twisted:

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby Formiko » 2010-12-04, 8:31

kshas - I make/create
sshas
rashas/teshas/kashas

tewashas -we make
sewashas - y'all
ratishas - they(m)
kontishas - they (f)

I don't know the word kshas, but I'm using knowlsdge of other verbs
my knowledge of to make is konnis
raié:wate - He gets up early
ieié:wate - She gets up early

This verb is also C stem
kiewate _I
siewate - you

tewaié:wate (inclusive we)
rateié:wate they (m)
konteié:wate they (f)



I hope that helps.
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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2010-12-04, 11:19

Yes, that helps, thanks. I had a few other questions before that one, don't know if you saw them.

I can figure out most verbs with the rules they give for all the bound pronouns, but then there are always those stems that they don't explicitly tell you what pronoun form to use, and it's like, ok which one?! I can make educated guesses, but I wish they had a more detailed explanation.

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2010-12-06, 1:26

księżycowy wrote:Is the ’k’ in ’Kwe’ (Hi) pronounced as an English ’g’ or a ’k’?

It's an English 'g', thus Kwe is pronounced as [gʷe]. My cd's and careful hearing confirm it!

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2010-12-06, 20:16

There are quite a few videos here:
http://www.mohawktv.ca/latestvideos
Not all of them are in Mohawk, but if you look enough you can find quite a few.
Two of them are the ones Nero linked to before. And a lot of the videos in Mohawk have the 'girl with the bad accent' :lol: so be warned!

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2010-12-18, 20:40

Feel free to correct any mistakes I make in the new Mini-Lessons thread for Mohawk Formiko. Thanks in advance! 8-)

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2011-03-02, 12:46

Sorry there hasn't been much activity here. Been posting a lot of my Mohawk stuff in my TAC thread.
Though I take it not to many people are crying over this. :evil:

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby Formiko » 2011-03-03, 8:32

księżycowy wrote:Sorry there hasn't been much activity here. Been posting a lot of my Mohawk stuff in my TAC thread.
Though I take it not to many people are crying over this. :evil:

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2011-03-03, 10:59

Formiko wrote::)

Yay! Someone cares!
Thanks! You've given me the motivation to get back at it! :D
I have been slacking a bit . . . :(

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2011-03-05, 11:02

Ok, so I was going over lesson three a bit yesterday and like usual I have a verb question.

If ká:ts, kásene, and kásewe are the second person forms of ’to come’ what the heck are the forms for the other persons?!
For example, is it kák for I come
And any idea why it’s ’-sene’ and ’-sewe’ for the 2nd dual and plural?
I’m guessing that’s for seni+e and sewa+e
Similar to how it’s
wà:sene and wà:sewe for you (d), (p) go
or kén: nontásene and kén: nontásewe
Are they consonant stems?
That’s what my guess is . . .
Sorry, I know this is a bit of an involved question Formiko! (I think . . .)

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2011-03-08, 10:44

Formiko?

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby Formiko » 2011-03-15, 8:56

księżycowy wrote:Formiko?

I'll get back to you soon..mmm, k?
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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2011-03-15, 11:50

Formiko wrote:I'll get back to you soon..mmm, k?

Sounds good! :)

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Re: Mohawk Discussion

Postby księżycowy » 2011-03-25, 12:45

So I tried looking in the two resources I have by Maracle (Thousand Words, and Speak Mohawk), and that wasn't any help. Hope you get back to me soon Formiko. (Not that I want to be a pain :nope: )

In the mean time I think I'll start lesson 4 soon.

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Re: Iroquoian Languages

Postby księżycowy » 2012-04-04, 14:46

It turns out that a Cayuga dictionary is available free as a downloadable Java app!

Download it here: http://www.cayugalanguage.ca/check-out- ... dictionary

I'm not sure how many words are in it, but it still looks good!

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Re: Iroquoian Languages

Postby Passe-Cale » 2012-07-05, 21:31

I have always wished to learn an amerindian (native american) language, one from Québec preferably. I live in Montréal, Kahnawake, Kahnesatake and Akwasasne (on the border between Québec, Ontario and New York) are all very close, learning Mohawk could be interesting. It is also one of the languages with the most fluent speakers in Southern Québec. Also I read they have immersion schools. I don't know if it would be possible for someone from out of the reserve to attend, it could be a nice experience. We know so little about the First Nations who live right next to us, it's a shame.

Formiko, did you learn your Mohawk on a reservation? Which one? Was it with a family or in a more formal context?

Anyway, I took this picture from the Casino in Akwasasne (sorry for the spelling, I'm sure it's wrong). Signs there are often in Mohawk in addition to English (and sometimes French).
I thought it was cool.
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Re: Iroquoian Languages

Postby księżycowy » 2012-07-06, 3:01

I'm not too sure if Formiko will get back to you any time soon. He seems to be MIA.

It's cool you're looking into some Mohawk though! :D
As I believe I've stated already in this thread, I :<3: the Iroquoian languages! And Mohawk is up there!

As for the reservation immersion schools, I have no idea, sorry. I mostly just collect textbooks and then learn from there.
Nice pic btw. :wink:

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Re: Iroquoian Languages

Postby Bingles » 2014-08-28, 5:36

Hi everybody,

I'm new to this forum, but I have been very interested in learning Cayuga, or Gayogoho:non'. I come from a Cayuga family and I found out the language is only spoken by 70~ people in both Canada and the United States. I was wondering if anybody else was learning Cayuga as well, I have the Wadewayenstanih: A Cayuga Teaching Grammar book and also a Cayuga-English Dictionary. Maybe somebody who has learned Mohawk could be interested too because of the similiarities between the languages! So if anybody is trying to learn Cayuga as well please contact me because it's kind of boring learning by myself. :lol:

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Re: Iroquoian Languages

Postby księżycowy » 2014-08-28, 12:57

I would absolutely love to learn Cayuga. My only problem is the lack of audio for the teaching grammar. That's why I've often thought of learning Oneida first.

EDIT: Actually, I just so happened to check for the hell of it, and the guys over at the COOL project have uploaded some audio for the dialogues in Wadewayę́stanih. :D

Maybe I could start learning some Cayuga soon!


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