TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

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Re: TAC 2016 - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby Saim » 2017-01-06, 15:50

voron wrote:Once again, I have got a confirmation that Anki doesn't work for me, or more generally pedantically following a textbook.

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And I'll use facebook posts, songs, blogs, vlogs, basically whatever I can come across and what interests me, as my materials. This random approach worked best for me in the past.


I've come to the same realisation. For the past two days I've been doing half an hour of learning out of the textbook and then half an hour to an hour of learning from native audio and video (for now mostly songs and this guy). I used to try to power through the textbook, doing an entire chapter in a day (including putting the words into Memrise), but I think this combined method is much more effective and allows me to spend more time on it on balance. This plus the pomodoro method and regular exercise have really cut my procrastination dramatically.



This is great, thanks for sharing.

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Re: TAC 2016 - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2017-01-06, 17:10

Saim wrote:This is great, thanks for sharing.

If you like it, check out "Do you want to build a snowman" too, it's sweet (and it's also in MSA):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FOuAeoha6o

These youtube users have a lot more subtitled songs from cartoons, in MSA and Egyptian dialect, check them out.
https://www.youtube.com/user/99meemo99
https://www.youtube.com/user/MohCoolMan

I just started to look into the Syrian media and it is very inspiring that I can find something I really like.
For example this rap song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIhSLu_GGls
It has on screen subtitles in English, and at the link below there are original lyrics in Syrian:
https://www.facebook.com/KlmatAghanyAsm ... 8167313432

I feel guilty that I bulk Disney songs and this rap telling about destruction and deaths in Syria, into the same post... I hope noone will find it diminishing, I didn't mean it this way. I wish that the war in Syria would end soon and all our Syrian brothers get a possibility to return to their homes.

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2017-01-06, 17:29

https://www.youtube.com/user/MohCoolMan

And I just discovered myself that this guy has recently started a cool new project. As he describes on his page:
The 100 Songs Initiative:
The aim behind this initiative is to show people from all around the world that Arabic is not just a language of religion, or a language associated with terrorism, that it is more than that, it's a language of love, poetry, rejoicing, and celebration of life. Religion needed Arabic for its eloquence, and not the other way around, and throughout the past century, many singers arose and each sang in their own dialect, reflecting their people's dismay and their people's patriotism, and their happiness, and in doing so, reflecting upon the whole Arab pan region.
Arabic is as rich a language as any other language there is, and music was but one of the many channels through which Arabic stands out from the lot, and shines and proves to be one of the most poetic and suited languages for expressing the human sentiments of love, affection, sorrow, and happiness.
The goal here is to post 100 translated video by the end of 2017, and each will be in a dialect, from artists from all over the pan region, and songs written by poets of every Arab nationality.
Requests are welcome.

So it's definitely a channel to follow!

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Re: TAC 2016 - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2017-01-06, 17:45

Saim wrote:for now mostly songs and this guy

This looks great, thanks!

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby Michael » 2017-01-06, 18:18

Refreshing my Azerbaijani, and Turkish to a lesser extent, has immensely triggered my Arabic wanderlust lately. I would love to at least master basic MSA within the next year or two, and then moving on to either Egyptian or Palestinian Arabic, but we shall see whether it comes to pass. I'm intensely focused on Azeri+Turkish for now and will keep any wanderlusts at bay till at least late spring.
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2017-01-06, 22:24

Michael wrote:Refreshing my Azerbaijani, and Turkish to a lesser extent, has immensely triggered my Arabic wanderlust lately. I would love to at least master basic MSA within the next year or two, and then moving on to either Egyptian or Palestinian Arabic, but we shall see whether it comes to pass. I'm intensely focused on Azeri+Turkish for now and will keep any wanderlusts at bay till at least late spring.

Don't dare you hop off the Turkic train teased by the mirage of Arabic! I will be watching you! :twisted:

Seriously, Turkish and Azeri will help with the Arabic vocabulary immensely. They share like 50% of vocab (nearly every Arabic word in a standard MSA text has a word derived from the same root in Turkish - I proved that on a number of texts). So by learning Azeri, you're learning Arabic too.

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby Michael » 2017-01-07, 1:36

Bu arada, neden fakat Türkçe, Kürtçe ve Arapça senin dil listende vardır? Sırpça, [Beyaz] Rusça, başka dillerin de görmesini zannetmiştim. :shock: Şu dillerden utanan olamazsın!

Bana karşılık verdiğinde Türkçe yazmaktan çekinme! :)
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-01-07, 2:36

Michael wrote:Bu arada, neden fakat Türkçe, Kürtçe ve Arapça senin dil listende vardır? Sırpça, [Beyaz] Rusça, başka dillerin de görmesini zannetmiştim. :shock: Şu dillerden utanan olamazsın!

Bana karşılık verdiğinde Türkçe yazmaktan çekinme! :)

voron wrote:
(Also where did all the other languages in your profile go?)

Turkish, Kurdish and Arabic look great together. I don't want to break this symmetry. :)

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby Michael » 2017-01-07, 3:13

vijayjohn wrote:
Michael wrote:Bu arada, neden fakat Türkçe, Kürtçe ve Arapça senin dil listende vardır? Sırpça, [Beyaz] Rusça, başka dillerin de görmesini zannetmiştim. :shock: Şu dillerden utanan olamazsın!

Bana karşılık verdiğinde Türkçe yazmaktan çekinme! :)

voron wrote:
(Also where did all the other languages in your profile go?)

Turkish, Kurdish and Arabic look great together. I don't want to break this symmetry. :)

Ah, şimdi daha iyi anlıyorum. Teşekkür ederim sana, vijayjohn! Ancak ben öğüt veririm ki, o (voron) bütün bildiği dillerini listede asamalı, tüm bildiği dillerini bilmek için, ama istemezse yapmaya gerek yok. :)
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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2017-01-07, 20:19

Evet Türkçe, Kürtçe ve Arapça beraber çok havalı duruyor benim profilimde, bu güzelliği bozmak istemiyorum. :P

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Re: TAC 2016 - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby voron » 2017-01-09, 22:00

Saim wrote:for now mostly songs and this guy

What's the dialect that he speaks in his videos? In one of the videos he told he was born and raised in Dubai but his parents are Jordanian, and replying to one of the comments he says he speaks distinctly from someone from Jordan, so I assume it's Gulf influenced Jordanian?

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Re: TAC - voron (Turkish, Kurdish, Arabic)

Postby Saim » 2017-01-10, 3:42

IIRC at some point he says it's a mix of Jordanian and Palestinian. It's likely Palestinians from Jordan still have a distinct way of speaking despite having lived there since 1948.


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