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with a grain of salt ‎

Postby md0 » 2016-12-15, 21:04

Looking for translations of this metaphor idiomatically, not literally.
Let's try to group by similar metaphor instead of by language family.

English: take it with a grain of salt ‎
Latin: cum grano salis (with a grain of salt)

Greek: μην το πάρεις τοις μετρητοίς (don't pay for it in cash)
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Re: with a grain of salt ‎

Postby linguoboy » 2016-12-16, 5:39

English: take it with a grain of salt ‎
Latin: cum grano salis (with a grain of salt)
Welsh: ei cymryd hi â phinsiad o halen (with a pinch of salt)

Greek: μην το πάρεις τοις μετρητοίς (don't pay for it in cash)

Irish: ná slog gan chogaint é (don't swallow it without chewing)
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Re: with a grain of salt ‎

Postby IpseDixit » 2016-12-17, 15:12

English: take it with a grain of salt ‎
Latin: cum grano salis (with a grain of salt)
Welsh: ei cymryd hi â phinsiad o halen (with a pinch of salt)

Greek: μην το πάρεις τοις μετρητοίς (don't pay for it in cash)

Irish: ná slog gan chogaint é (don't swallow it without chewing)

Italian: prendila/o con le pinze (take it with tongs) / prendila/o con le molle (molla usually means "spring", but I've found out that a secondary meaning is "tongs for the fireplace" and I suppose this is the intended meaning here)

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Re: with a grain of salt ‎

Postby Bernard » 2016-12-17, 16:01

English: take it with a grain of salt ‎
Latin: cum grano salis (with a grain of salt)
Welsh: ei cymryd hi â phinsiad o halen (with a pinch of salt)

German: Nimm es nicht für bare Münze! (Do not take it at face value!)
Greek: μην το πάρεις τοις μετρητοίς (don't pay for it in cash)

Irish: ná slog gan chogaint é (don't swallow it without chewing)

Italian: prendila/o con le pinze (take it with tongs) / prendila/o con le molle (molla usually means "spring", but I've found out that a secondary meaning is "tongs for the fireplace" and I suppose this is the intended meaning here)

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Re: with a grain of salt ‎

Postby Egwene » 2016-12-18, 9:49

English: take it with a grain of salt ‎
Latin: cum grano salis (with a grain of salt)
Welsh: ei cymryd hi â phinsiad o halen (with a pinch of salt)

German: Nimm es nicht für bare Münze! (Do not take it at face value!)
Dutch: met een korreltje zout nemen (take it with a grain of salt)
Greek: μην το πάρεις τοις μετρητοίς (don't pay for it in cash)

Irish: ná slog gan chogaint é (don't swallow it without chewing)

Italian: prendila/o con le pinze (take it with tongs) / prendila/o con le molle (molla usually means "spring", but I've found out that a secondary meaning is "tongs for the fireplace" and I suppose this is the intended meaning here)

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Re: with a grain of salt ‎

Postby md0 » 2016-12-18, 11:10

~Sorting

English: take it with a grain of salt ‎
Dutch: met een korreltje zout nemen (take it with a grain of salt)
Latin: cum grano salis (with a grain of salt)
Welsh: ei cymryd hi â phinsiad o halen (with a pinch of salt)

German: Nimm es nicht für bare Münze! (Do not take it at face value!)
Greek: μην το πάρεις τοις μετρητοίς (don't pay for it in cash)

Irish: ná slog gan chogaint é (don't swallow it without chewing)

Italian: prendila/o con le pinze (take it with tongs) / prendila/o con le molle (molla usually means "spring", but I've found out that a secondary meaning is "tongs for the fireplace" and I suppose this is the intended meaning here)
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Re: with a grain of salt ‎

Postby Naava » 2017-01-05, 14:51

+ Finnish (purra is literally 'to bite', but I think chewing is closer to what is meant)

English: take it with a grain of salt ‎
Dutch: met een korreltje zout nemen (take it with a grain of salt)
Latin: cum grano salis (with a grain of salt)
Welsh: ei cymryd hi â phinsiad o halen (with a pinch of salt)

German: Nimm es nicht für bare Münze! (Do not take it at face value!)
Greek: μην το πάρεις τοις μετρητοίς (don't pay for it in cash)

Irish: ná slog gan chogaint é (don't swallow it without chewing)

Italian: prendila/o con le pinze (take it with tongs) / prendila/o con le molle (molla usually means "spring", but I've found out that a secondary meaning is "tongs for the fireplace" and I suppose this is the intended meaning here)

Finnish: älä purematta niele (don't swallow (it) without biting/chewing)

//EDIT: shouldn't Welsh and Irish be in the same group?
//EDIT2: oops that explains! I was blind. :P Thanks!
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Re: with a grain of salt ‎

Postby Dormouse559 » 2017-01-05, 16:58

Naava wrote://EDIT: shouldn't Welsh and Irish be in the same group?
The OP asked to sort translations by similar metaphors rather than language family. So your Finnish translation goes with the Irish. I've moved it there.

Adding two French translations. I decided to pair "take it with tweezers" with Italian's "take it with tongs", since the image is similar.

English: take it with a grain of salt ‎
Dutch: met een korreltje zout nemen (take it with a grain of salt)
Latin: cum grano salis (with a grain of salt)
Welsh: ei cymryd hi â phinsiad o halen (with a pinch of salt)

French: ne le prends pas pour argent comptant (don't take it for ready money)
German: Nimm es nicht für bare Münze! (Do not take it at face value!)
Greek: μην το πάρεις τοις μετρητοίς (don't pay for it in cash)

Finnish: älä purematta niele (don't swallow (it) without biting/chewing)
Irish: ná slog gan chogaint é (don't swallow it without chewing)

French: prends-le avec des pincettes (take it with tweezers)
Italian: prendila/o con le pinze (take it with tongs) / prendila/o con le molle (molla usually means "spring", but I've found out that a secondary meaning is "tongs for the fireplace" and I suppose this is the intended meaning here)
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Re: with a grain of salt ‎

Postby linguoboy » 2017-01-05, 17:20

Bernard wrote:German: Nimm es nicht für bare Münze! (Do not take it at face value!)

"Face value" would be Nennwert/Nominalwert. I think a better literal translation of "bare Münze" is "hard cash".

Dutch supposedly has an equivalent expression (niet voor goede munt aan/opnemen), but I'm not finding any usage examples in the negative imperative.
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Re: with a grain of salt ‎

Postby Bernard » 2017-01-06, 11:20

Fixing English translation of German (thank you, linguoboy!)

English: take it with a grain of salt ‎
Dutch: met een korreltje zout nemen (take it with a grain of salt)
Latin: cum grano salis (with a grain of salt)
Welsh: ei cymryd hi â phinsiad o halen (with a pinch of salt)

French: ne le prends pas pour argent comptant (don't take it for ready money)
German: Nimm es nicht für bare Münze! (Do not take it for hard cash!)
Greek: μην το πάρεις τοις μετρητοίς (don't pay for it in cash)

Finnish: älä purematta niele (don't swallow (it) without biting/chewing)
Irish: ná slog gan chogaint é (don't swallow it without chewing)

French: prends-le avec des pincettes (take it with tweezers)
Italian: prendila/o con le pinze (take it with tongs) / prendila/o con le molle (molla usually means "spring", but I've found out that a secondary meaning is "tongs for the fireplace" and I suppose this is the intended meaning here)


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